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re: Lebron averaged 34.5, 8.5, and 10
Posted on 6/7/18 at 11:41 am to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 6/7/18 at 11:41 am to Dawgsontop34
He scored 51 and people got on him for not doing enough.
He's arguably the greatest because he has that burden to bear; he's expected to win every game in which he performs to the best of his abilities. No previous player has been held to that standard.
He's arguably the greatest because he has that burden to bear; he's expected to win every game in which he performs to the best of his abilities. No previous player has been held to that standard.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 11:42 am
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:56 am to Goldrush25
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He's arguably the greatest because he has that burden to bear;
If he picks his personnel and then has a heavy burden, maybe his basketball IQ isn't as high as we think?
Guy wants to play with specialists. Two way players want the ball more.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:06 am to Dawgsontop34
Yet he's 0-3 in the most important category right now
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:58 am to Ryan3232
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controlling possessions,
low turnovers
Bad shots doesn't equate to turnovers (on the stat sheet)
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Making your teammates better,
assists
If you assist hunt, no not really.
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WINNING
another quantifiable measurement.
Yeah by W vs L
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 4:15 am
Posted on 6/8/18 at 6:08 am to TheCoveBR
If stats were so important, Russell Westbrook was the greatest player ever last year. When are people going to realize that when players TRY for triple doubles, it is not good for the team. It keeps all of the other players uninvolved.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:53 am to Dawgsontop34
KD has an “unbelievable” game 3. LeBron does that shite every night and people rag on him for not comforting his teammate when they forget the damn score in the NBA Finals. The hate is ridiculous
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:25 am to Dawgsontop34
This is why I think criticizing LeBron for this finals performance is dumb.
Jordan's best finals were 1992-93 vs the Suns. He averaged 41, 8.5 rpg and 6.3 apg.
LeBron is producing a performance that is comparable and maybe better than Jordan's best finals, and it isn't the first time he's done that. The difference is the Suns had Barkley and a second allstar in Dan Majerle. Klay is better than Majerle by a decent amount and he's the Warriors third option along with two prior MVP's.
I don't even think LBJ is the GOAT, just that it is a close competition, but the haters are just silly.
Jordan's best finals were 1992-93 vs the Suns. He averaged 41, 8.5 rpg and 6.3 apg.
LeBron is producing a performance that is comparable and maybe better than Jordan's best finals, and it isn't the first time he's done that. The difference is the Suns had Barkley and a second allstar in Dan Majerle. Klay is better than Majerle by a decent amount and he's the Warriors third option along with two prior MVP's.
I don't even think LBJ is the GOAT, just that it is a close competition, but the haters are just silly.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:37 am to DirtyMike
So deadly shooter Durant would be stoppable running the pick and roll every time down the court?
He'd put similar numbers to LeBron if the offense ran through him like it does LBJ
He'd put similar numbers to LeBron if the offense ran through him like it does LBJ
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:44 am to TheCoveBR
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If he picks his personnel and then has a heavy burden, maybe his basketball IQ isn't as high as we think?
Guy wants to play with specialists. Two way players want the ball more.
I never get the GM argument about LeBron either.
He gets ripped for creating a superteam in Miami, which is being an awesome GM.
Then he gets ripped for not creating a super enough team in Cleveland. If you don't like his burden in Cleveland, you should have loved the Miami move, yet nobody sees it like that.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:56 am to Rep520
He didn't create the team in Miami... Riley did and then LBJ left to try to be LeGM back in Cleveland. Everyone knows that.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:56 am to BobBarker
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So MJ isn’t a star? He shot 83% from the line for his career. So did Kobe. Magic shot right at 85%. You’re gonna tell me Kareem, Shaq, Malone, Barkley, and Hakeem aren’t superstars? They all shot below 75% at the line. frick out of here. That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever heard.
Par for the course with Mizzou
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:57 am to TheCoveBR
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If he picks his personnel and then has a heavy burden, maybe his basketball IQ isn't as high as we think?
People assume what they want, but none of us really have no idea to what degree he's dictating which players ended up in Cleveland.
Nonetheless, he's expected to beat GSW with this crew. 51 points and people are saying he should've done more to win.
To me that says you expect him to be able to do more, which is an expectation people never had for anyone else, not even Jordan. If you turn around and said you knew he couldn't do it, then why are you criticizing him for not doing something you knew he couldn't do? Can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:01 am to cubsfan5150
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He didn't create the team in Miami... Riley did and then LBJ left to try to be LeGM back in Cleveland. Everyone knows that.
That's my exact beef. The good stuff, that was someone else. The bad stuff, that was LeBron.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:04 am to nateslu1
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Today's all-stars have to join a "super team" in order to gain false confidence in themselves. These players will go down in history with a great record but without the legend or legacy.
Until 1988 players couldn't even leave their team in free agency if they wanted too. Jordan's Bulls were on the upswing and he had just signed an 8-year contract with them. When guys from that era say they would have never considered teaming up to make a run at a championship, it's disingenuous. It's easy to say when you didn't have the opportunity.
NBA contracts were a mess in the 1990s. Jordan signed a contract in 1997 that was for 123% of the salary cap.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:07 am to Rep520
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That's my exact beef. The good stuff, that was someone else. The bad stuff, that was LeBron.
Your beef is that he isn't getting credit for something he wasn't responsible for?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:07 am to kciDAtaE
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KD has an “unbelievable” game 3. LeBron does that shite every night and people rag on him for not comforting his teammate when they forget the damn score in the NBA Finals. The hate is ridiculous
Exactly.
Who the frick has had this burden to deal with pretty much on a daily basis?
His critics are either unwittingly saying that he's capable of more than any other player that's played the game, because no one else consistently is asked to do more than Lebron. Or they're moving the goalposts. Has to be one or the other.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:18 am to slackster
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NBA contracts were a mess in the 1990s
Now days they just sign one-year deals in order to hold their owners/GMs hostage, and then bail on them when the team that the player helped build ends up being "not enough help"
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:21 am to cubsfan5150
quote:Are GMs forced to sign them to 1 year deals?
Now days they just sign one-year deals in order to hold their owners/GMs hostage, and then bail on them when the team that the player helped build ends up being "not enough help"
They can let a player walk if he won't sign long term.
That's quite the excuse making for GMs, giving them an excuse for something they agreed to.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:22 am to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:claiming Lebron isn’t responsible for Miami is lol worthy
Your beef is that he isn't getting credit for something he wasn't responsible for?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:23 am to shel311
Ah yes, I'm sure that letting Lebron walk would go over quite well when he's going to get the 1-yr deal with a player option somewhere.
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