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Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:45 am to supatigah
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Segregating the privates for the playoffs is punishment for perceived success. It certainly isn't a "reward"
Why is it punishment? Was their championship designated as as lesser or insignificant title or something?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:46 am to GGShin
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In regards to winning a State Championship in Football
218 schools 5 Titles = 1 in 43 NonSelect
75 schools 4 Titles = 1 in 18 Select
In regards to winning State Championship in Baseball/ Basketball
273 schools 7 Titles = 1 in 39 NonSelect
117 schools 5 Titles = 1 in 23 Select
Just how many total 'state championships' would be awarded in any given year in Louisiana between Football, Basketball(M/W), & Baseball under the current agreement?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:47 am to MOT
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In what way did public principals have the ability to "self govern" and when exactly did they lose it?
They will if the state legislature goes through with a threat to essentially disband the LHSAA for its segregation tactics.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:49 am to MOT
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Why is it punishment? Was their championship designated as as lesser or insignificant title or something?
The Private schools want to compete with everyone. They were punished by such nonsense has having 10 to 12 team state playoff brackets in football for the higher classification schools. Now it has spread to baseball, basketball and softball. It's beyond dumb.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:55 am to Jwho77
quote:We should probably take this to the DAT where we can discuss it logically without all the mouth breathers on both sides
Jwho77
But anyway, you didn't answer the question about when the publics had the ability to "self govern".
I agree the LHSAA needs to go away. It has tried to play the middle for too long. Each side needs their own association, like some states, since they couldn't agree on a set of rules to regulate things within the same association, as other states have done.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:58 am to Jwho77
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The Private schools want to compete with everyone.
There has never been an open class in Louisiana in my lifetime, but I'm sure there was at some point. When was the last time any particular school, public or private, competed against everyone for the same championship?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:58 am to MOT
So true. The public schools as the majority within the LHSAA have the ability to self govern in athletics. The state legislature could change that.
The organization itself has very little power; as in, the people who run it. In the end, only the principals vote on the major issues.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:01 am to MOT
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There has never been an open class in Louisiana in my lifetime, but I'm sure there was at some point. When was the last time any particular school, public or private, competed against everyone for the same championship?
All schools compete in classes (or divisions) based on enrollment size. Single-sex schools have their enrollment numbers doubled for classification purposes.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:07 am to Jwho77
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The public schools as the majority within the LHSAA have the ability to self govern in athletics.
Do most issues result in a vote strictly along public/private lines? Or can some issues result in publics and privates disagreeing amongst themselves? I'm asking because I have no idea.
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All schools compete in classes (or divisions) based on enrollment size. Single-sex schools have their enrollment numbers doubled for classification purposes.
So as far as you're aware also, schools have always been grouped based on certain characteristics?
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 1:15 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:16 am to MOT
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Do most issues result in a vote strictly among public/private lines? Or can some issues result in publics and privates disagreeing amongst themselves?
Most of the issues they vote upon are not public vs. private type things. For example, they decide how much to pay officials to work the games. They also vote on rules for transfer students. There are many examples really.
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So as far as you're aware also, schools have always been grouped based on certain characteristics?
They had only really been grouped by enrollment numbers for the sake of fairness. I assume that's the same in almost every state. For example, you don't want a school with 150 students trying to compete with schools that have 1,000 in football or baseball very often (unless the smaller school wants to do so). So they just group by enrollment for all sports.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 1:17 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:38 am to Jwho77
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Most of the issues they vote upon are not public vs. private type things
Then how can we say the publics are, or were, self governing? Or do you mean it in the sense that there has never been an issue with enough interest to get another state entity involved, and the publics are to blame because they are the majority?
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They had only really been grouped by enrollment numbers for the sake of fairness. I assume that's the same in almost every state.
According to the thread here the other day and from what I know of others, our neighboring states have separate associations or a multiplier (not just for all boys or all girls schools). How does that compare to Louisiana?
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 1:47 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:48 am to MOT
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Or do you mean it in the sense that there has never been an issue with enough interest to get another state entity involved, and the publics are to blame because they are the majority?
Yes. And the publics are the majority that forced the playoff splits.
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According to the thread here the other day and from what I know of others, our neighboring states have separate associations or a multiplier (not just for all boys or all girls schools). How does that compete to Louisiana?
I'm not sure exactly what all the other states do. But I know there are multiple organizations in some states and different multipliers and such. The sad thing is, the majority of the LHSAA membership didn't try to work with everyone to compromise based on what other states have done. They split football, rejected all compromises presented thereafter and then moved to split the other major team sports. It's nothing more than a 'deal with it or leave' move by the public schools toward the private schools.
Note: Not all public schools want these splits but the vast majority obviously do based on the principals' votes.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 1:49 am
Posted on 6/11/16 at 6:40 am to GGShin
GGShin
First off, you're not the real GG Shin because he's not a dumbass like you. You have literally come in to every thread and posted about this when it is obvious you have no idea what the issues are. People have corrected you but you still show your ignorance.
This...
Is literally the opposite of what the privates want. They want to play everyone in the regular and postseason. The publics want nothing to do with privates when championships are on the line. They want to make their money in the regular season and then shoo the privates off to play in 10 team playoff brackets.
First off, you're not the real GG Shin because he's not a dumbass like you. You have literally come in to every thread and posted about this when it is obvious you have no idea what the issues are. People have corrected you but you still show your ignorance.
This...
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Everything they say they want is in this Association, they can play all the "Good" Publics they want in regular season and then get to play all the Privates is the Playoffs.
Is literally the opposite of what the privates want. They want to play everyone in the regular and postseason. The publics want nothing to do with privates when championships are on the line. They want to make their money in the regular season and then shoo the privates off to play in 10 team playoff brackets.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 9:36 am to GGShin
Shin, I think you think the privates want an easy road to a title and for some reason that being sectioned off should make them happy. I don't know where you ever saw a select say they wanted less competition. It boggles my mind that you've brought that up several times and still don't realize it is wrong.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:03 am to bigcatfish
Right huh? A lot of butt hurt over something doesn't have an affect on their everyday life. This is not the end of the LHSAA. Do you think with some 175 public schools they will stop playing sports and having champions of the publics and some privstes leave? Those championships might be tarnished I the eyes of the new association but you know what the kids don't give a shite.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:14 am to PANTHER
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the kids don't give a shite.
Well depends. There are reasons why kids go to SEC schools and not Sun Belt schools if they are top athletes. It will matter, it just depends on how it shakes out.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:24 am to GhostofJackson
Panther you get it. That's what I am trying to get across, it doesn't matter one bit to the kids. Majority of high school athletes couldn't tell you the teams in their District let alone in their Class or whether they are Select/NonSelect.
Ghost less than 5% of high school athletes play at next level, and of those only the select few get an offer to play SEC.
Privates want to play Publics then do it in regular season. I looked at some schedules for Private schools and most play other Privates out of District. Only Publics they play are in District.
Ghost less than 5% of high school athletes play at next level, and of those only the select few get an offer to play SEC.
Privates want to play Publics then do it in regular season. I looked at some schedules for Private schools and most play other Privates out of District. Only Publics they play are in District.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:26 am to GGShin
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Majority of high school athletes couldn't tell you the teams in their District let alone in their Class or whether they are Select/NonSelect
I just realized you are a troll. Sorry about trying to engage in a discussion. You obviously don't know much about HS sports.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:31 am to CyrustheVirus
SID Privates keep saying it comes down to money the Publics want in regular season games, wrong. Take Peabody in Alexandria for example, Football games draw abt 200 home fans Total with band/cheerleaders. Go to a Basketball games when they play anybody good/bad and the gym is sold out 1500. It comes to winning, if you win people show up, it not nobody is going, I don't care whether it's Public/Private.
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