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Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:20 am to Cliff Booth
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I think a lot of it comes from this. McEnroe and Navratilova have shite on her quite a bit over this and held up a banner or something couple years ago suggesting the Aussie Open rename the stadium or whatever it is that's named after Court.
That was so lame from Mac. He looked like a bitch in his sweatsuit.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:24 am to shel311
Not a tennis fan but I knew who Court was. Until this last week, I knew there was venus and serena, but I wouldn't have been able to tell you who the better of the two was
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:31 am to Splackavellie
Margaret Court is 80 years old. Serena is many generations removed from ever watching Court take the court.
Watch's next, Rod Laver not happy with the lack of respect he's getting from the Joker.
Watch's next, Rod Laver not happy with the lack of respect he's getting from the Joker.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:34 am to lsupride87
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She took off multiple times to have kids because it was expected of her as well
...because it was expected of her?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:36 am to the LSUSaint
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She got beat because she's slow and fat, not because her skills weren't there
I don't think she's far from the lowest weight she could be at.
She's built like a truck. She still moves better than most.
This is more about age than it is about being out of shape.
She's definitely the goat.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:41 am to moneyg
quote:uhh, yeh. Being a woman in the 60s was a little different hoss. You weren’t celebrated much for being an athlete
...because it was expected of her?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:53 am to Splackavellie
Margaret Court has always been a bitter a-hole who pushes people away. She's always tried to blame being a Christian on why people don't like her but it really boils down to her being an unlikable dickhead. This is par for the course with her.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 10:56 am
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:08 am to Splackavellie
Margaret Court doesn’t get the same respect as Serena (and Graf) because she won 11 out of her 24 slams at the Australian Open which had absolutely dogshit fields back in those days. It’s like saying Boise State had a better CFB program than Alabama from 2008-2012 because they had a higher winning percentage. You have to put the numbers into context.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:18 am to wilceaux
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Margaret Court clearly had talent relative to her peers at the time, but older folks need to understand that athletes today are way better and it's way more competitive. Margaret Court claiming she'd love to play today because it's way easier is just wrong.
I just have to be 100% honest.. Serena's career is more impressive no matter how much I dislike her.
This. For Court to sit here and say with a straight face that it would be easier for her to win in today's game is laughably stupid.
She played a very aggressive game for her time. I am not trying to compare her to the current game, but for then, she was considered to be very strong. It's not out of the question that if she were training with today's methods, she could have been as strong as today's athletes. That's why comparisons don't work very well. It's impossible to know how great talents of prior times would be with today's training and game.
What is definitely easier today is playing as a mother. In the 60s, it was expected that she would retire and was probably pretty groundbreaking for her to continue to play after having children. There are still only 3 to win Grand Slams as mothers.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:22 am to bamameister
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Margaret Court is 80 years old. Serena is many generations removed from ever watching Court take the court.
Watch's next, Rod Laver not happy with the lack of respect he's getting from the Joker.
Yeah, saying her faith has something to do with it is BS. Sports accomplishments that happened long ago get overlooked. Ask Bob Cousy.
Additionally, the American media fawning over the present day accomplishments of an American over an Australian from 55 years ago is not that surprising.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:28 am to moneyg
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She took off multiple times to have kids because it was expected of her as well
...because it was expected of her?
Have you never heard of the 60s and 70s and women's rights? Of course it was expected of her. To explain what it was like for women back then...my mom was part owner of a business that she worked in and in 1972 the bank refused to count all her income in giving my parents a home mortgage because she would just quit work when she got pregnant. They agreed to count 25% of her income because she owned 1/3 of the business.
That's what it was like to be a women in the 60s and 70s. It was assumed that if you married you'd quit work and for sure 100% you would quit if you had a baby.
Court's return to tennis as a mother was groundbreaking!
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:41 am to saintsfan22
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Yeah, saying her faith has something to do with it is BS.
not really.
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Tennis greats Martina Navratilova and John McEnroe called for Margaret Court’s name to be stripped from the Australian Open’s second showcourt in a protest at the stadium that drew a frosty response from tournament organizers on Tuesday.
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The appointment to recognise her "eminent service to tennis" was due to be revealed on Monday but was leaked on social media on Friday. It has already attracted criticism over her widely-opposed views on homosexuality, gay marriage and transgender people.
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews strongly opposed the decision, saying her "disgraceful and hurtful" views should not be honoured.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:43 am to 3nOut
That's why people don't like her. Her winning gets ignored because it happened a long time ago.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:45 am to bamameister
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Watch's next, Rod Laver not happy with the lack of respect he's getting from the Joker.
I'd bet Djokovic actually would be both aware of Laver and have good things to say about him. I seem to recall Sampras mentioning him quite a bit during his run.
Sort of the way Jordan was well aware of the greats that played before him and would never say anything about being better than them and simply how much their play inspired him. Think also Mike Tyson who was a legit student of boxing.
As for Court, I get it. You can't compare generations. Obviously if you teleported 22 year old Court to 2005 and she played Serena she'd get beaten. Hell, she'd still be playing with a small wooden racquet. I think her argument, and it goes for most older era players, is if she was born in THIS era would she have been good/great with the same benefit of training, diet, etc? Of course people that were competitive athletes would like their chances in that situation. Why would anyone think differently?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:53 am to Splackavellie
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"I would love to have played in this era. I think it's so much easier," she said.
What she said wasn't a problem for me until this. Saying the above invalidated everything else and made her seem like a bitter old bitch. Beating up on part time amateurs in the 60s is not the same as women's sports today.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:55 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I'd bet Djokovic actually would be both aware of Laver and have good things to say about him.
Why do you have to bet? You don't know? Are you unaware of the Joker and other great players making such acknowledgments to Rod Laver?
Court is telling the world she expected some sort of acknowledgment from Serena about her accomplishments. She fails to mention if other great tennis stars have complied in the past with her request.
This whole take is coming off like early signs of dementia.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:02 pm to shel311
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I'm trying to understand how I've legit never heard of that person before this story. I can't really figure that out.
I'm a sports guy blah blah blah. Played tennis in high school and it was one of my favorite sports to watch in my teens and 20s, though it was mostly the guys.
I just don't get how I could not have heard the name of an all time great with that many wins.
You are proving Court's point.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:09 pm to Splackavellie
I don't particularly like Serena, but this is giving off mad "Back In My Day" vibes.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 12:13 pm to Tangineck
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What she said wasn't a problem for me until this.
While I cant speak to which era would be easier, her reasons for saying this weren't based on the current talent level in the game. She explained it as when she played she had to travel alone. As to where today, players have family, coaches etc along with them. I think she was speaking more to the mental part of the game. In that sense, I think she has a valid point.
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"I would love to have played in this era. I think it's so much easier," she said. "How I would love to have taken family or friends along with me. But I couldn't. I had to go on my own or with the national team. People don't see all that. "We didn't have psychologists or coaches with us. It's a whole different world.
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