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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:03 am to
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:03 am to
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and Lebron has accomplished just as much as Kobe has without Shaq.


SWEEP
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:04 am to
what is truly scary is that BronBron hasn't even reached his prime

As of now, Kobe>LeBron

In 5 years

Lebron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe ever thought about being
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:05 am to
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Lebron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe ever thought about being


That's just stupid. Kobe is one of the 15 best players EVER at this point in his career.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:07 am to
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SWEEP


We gave the Celtics a way better run than the Lakers did IMO IMHO FWIW. Also I think we'd have beat the Lakers in 6. All a moot point though, I'm still just gonna say when it's all said and done Lebron will be >>>>>> than Kobe.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:08 am to
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Moves out of a crab dribble:
1. Go – when the dribbler lands and does not see the defender’s chest in the path they will
often want to pivot on the lead foot and go hard to the basket.
2. Spin dribble – when the defender’s chest is in the path the dribbler should use a spin
dribble to change direction.
3. Fake spin dribble – when the defender is moving along with the dribbler, the dribbler may
use a fake spin dribble and continue in the same direction. The dribbler fakes with the
ball, head and shoulder all going back as if doing a spin dribble. The dribbler will then
pivot on the lead foot and go.


FEAR THIS
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:10 am to
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We gave the Celtics a way better run than the Lakers did IMO IMHO FWIW. Also I think we'd have beat the Lakers in 6


So did Atlanta, but that doesn't mean they were better than L.A. The C's just coasted through the East and turned it on against L.A.

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I'm still just gonna say when it's all said and done Lebron will be >>>>>> than Kobe.


If Kobe quits now, Bron needs a good 6-8 years to surpass Kobe's legacy. Lots of injuries, slumps, trades can happen in half a decade
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
2679 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:11 am to
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career.


BronBron will have a better career than Kobe when it is all said and done
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:12 am to
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If Kobe quits now, Bron needs a good 6-8 years to surpass Kobe's legacy. Lots of injuries, slumps, trades can happen in half a decade


True.


we'll see. And nothing against Kobe, but if I was starting a team from scratch and could pick anyone in the NBA, I'd def go Lebron over Kobe right now.
This post was edited on 1/7/09 at 12:15 am
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:12 am to
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Bron needs a good 6-8 years to surpass Kobe's legacy




Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:14 am to
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Bron needs a good 6-8 years to surpass Kobe's legacy.



Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:15 am to
Lou, do you think LeBron could secure three rings, an MVP, and countless All NBA defensive/offensive 1st team selections? The buzzer beaters? The clutch shooting from all areas of the floor in less time than that?

Bron is great, but Kobe has been at this a lot longer than LeBron.
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
2679 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:22 am to
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do you think LeBron could secure three rings, an MVP, and countless All NBA defensive/offensive 1st team selections?


Not only do i think he can do this, I am almost certain he will.

MVP- no question, without doubt Lebron will win an MVP

Defensive/Offensive 1st team selections- Easily

Three rings- maybe not 3, but he will get his.
(without a "Shaq" for that matter)

The cavs have the 2nd best record in the East, do you think that is a fluke?

Lebron is only 23, like I said, he hasn't even reached his prime, and if you can't see that, you are ignorant
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:29 am to
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MVP- no question, without doubt Lebron will win an MVP


Yeah that's a gimme. Bron could have MJ like MVPs, though Kobe should DEFINITELY have two right now, if not three.

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Defensive/Offensive 1st team selections- Easily


Not happening. Offense probably, defense no.

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Three rings- maybe not 3, but he will get his.
(without a "Shaq" for that matter)


And Kobe will a ring or two within the next few rings. LeBron will have highly competitive teams in Cleveland, but WILL NOT win it all until he has a better 2nd option.

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The cavs have the 2nd best record in the East, do you think that is a fluke?


Only one team can win the East, though, and it's gonna be the team who happens to be one spot ahead of them.

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Lebron is only 23, like I said, he hasn't even reached his prime, and if you can't see that, you are ignorant


When did I say that? I'm saying he'll have to be just short of 30 by the time he surpasses Kobe Bryant's career to this point. Not gets close, not evens up, but surpasses.

That would mean that LeBron would be a top 15 player in history if he were to do that, which does not come overnight.
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:37 am to
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That would mean that LeBron would be a top 15 player in history if he were to do that, which does not come overnight.


So you honestly don't think by the time it is all said and done he won't be top 15?

IMHO I feel as if he is well on his way.
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7637 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:40 am to
Kobe right now. Not really as close as some of y'all are making it out to be.

When its all said it done -- probably Lebron.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:40 am to
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So you honestly don't think by the time it is all said and done he won't be top 15?


When did I say that? I said he won't by the time he's 27-28.
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
2679 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 12:44 am to
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I said he won't by the time he's 27-28.


Barring any major setbacks, I don't think it is a reach to say he could be in 6-7 years
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 1:28 am to
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Jumpshot.

Kobe has one, Lebron does not.


And yet Kobe shoots 45% from the field and LeBron shoots 50%.

It just seems really dumb to prefer a guy with a better jump shot as opposed to a guy with a substantially higher FG%.

Oh, and LBJ is a better rebounder and better passer.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62211 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 7:26 am to
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Jumpshot.

Kobe has one, Lebron does not.




So, by this tremendous logic, Shaq was never the best player in the league because he didn't have a jump shot. Actually, by this logic, Shaq was the worst player in the league. Which is retarded. Kobe is a shooting guard--Lebron is a forward. He shouldn't have as good of a jump shot as Kobe.


Also, this year Lebron is averaging, .4 more points, 1.4 more rebounds, 2.5 more assists, and .5 more steals than Kobe. And he's shooting more than 2% better from the field. But Kobe's better because he he hit a couple of 3s in a home loss last night.

Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47157 posts
Posted on 1/7/09 at 9:31 am to
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Also, this year Lebron is averaging, .4 more points, 1.4 more rebounds, 2.5 more assists, and .5 more steals than Kobe. And he's shooting more than 2% better from the field. But Kobe's better because he he hit a couple of 3s in a home loss last night.


I was waiting on you to break out the stat sheet.
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