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re: T-ball coaching ethics debate.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 1:59 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/16/12 at 1:59 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Exactly.
that is the way to go. Don't keep score
if they are competitive enough to be doing what they are doing, they shouldnt be playing TBall. Ive never heard of 6 or 7 year old playing TBall to begin wtih
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:02 pm to UnoMe
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Teach your kids to quit hitting to the fricking pitcher, set them up to hit down third base line and when you have runners on 2nd & 3 rd, hit it behind the runners.
I'm still trying to teach my kids to hit the ball period. We open them up to third but most still chop at the ball anyway and its lucky to get halfway to the mound.
And why do you feel the need to curse in T-ball thread.
Barry-I did think about the topic. If more kids would learn hard work and basic ethics in sports this world would be a better place. These no score leauges are idiotic.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:07 pm to Bleeding purple
T-ball is nothing more than taking advantage of kids who aren't physically skilled enough to make plays. We have had problems throughout the years in our league with dads who find loopholes in the rules. Our local league has about half a page of rules dedicated to each age group, T-ball has 7 pages. If it's truly a learning league, then the scorebook needs to go.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:07 pm to Bleeding purple
Coaches like this are in every little league sport, they are not helping the kids in the long run. I see basketball coaches of 2-3 graders screaming at them to "finish", "make better passes", and "rebound" when obviously nobody has taught them how to do it. It really pisses me off bc these kids are going to get burned out by junior high if nobody teaches them the right way and just screams at them. 
I saw a guy teaching his team to get the rebound, turn around and throw it one handed to the other guys who had leaked out after the shot instead of getting the rebound. He was then yelling because they kept giving up offensive boards...
I saw a guy teaching his team to get the rebound, turn around and throw it one handed to the other guys who had leaked out after the shot instead of getting the rebound. He was then yelling because they kept giving up offensive boards...
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:08 pm to Bleeding purple
this reminds me of my little brother's tball league
there was one coach who placed every hitter so they'd hit it at particularly bad players
also, for whatever reason, my brother's team was super young to start and they were together for 2 or 3 years and ran shite by the end
there was one coach who placed every hitter so they'd hit it at particularly bad players
also, for whatever reason, my brother's team was super young to start and they were together for 2 or 3 years and ran shite by the end
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:13 pm to Bleeding purple
I agree with you. I'd rather my kid learn the right way and lose than be taught totally wrong and win. Luckily I won't have to worry about that, I played baseball for 12 years so my son will be taught correctly.
Keep doing what you're doing. It's sad those coaches only care about the W.
Keep doing what you're doing. It's sad those coaches only care about the W.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:13 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
These no score leauges are idiotic.
I agree but at 4-5 years old, to say they are playing a game is laughable.
quote:
. If more kids would learn hard work and basic ethics in sports this world would be a better place.
I agree, but like I said they are so young that they hardly know what they are doing.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:14 pm to Bleeding purple
My bad, I didn't realize your 4 & 5 year old players would be reading this.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:16 pm to Bleeding purple
I wouldn't worry about it...I'm 110% certain the kids aren't right now 
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:22 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:I guess it depends. Since you are talking 6 and 7 year olds, I would mostly agree.
These no score leauges are idiotic.
4 and 5 year olds just learning a sport, it doesn't really matter. In my experience the kids don't give a shite anyway about the score. It is only the dads (including me). They need to learn the rules of the game and how to play so they can win at the next level. It is really more practice/a clinic than a league at that point.
The reason some leagues don't keep score at that age is to discourage the type of behavior you are complaining of in the OP. Theoretically, if there were no score, the other coach would be more worried about his kids throwing and catching than he would be about running the score up. (Realistically, the dads and coaches are keeping score anyway so I am not sure how effective it is).
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:25 pm to Bleeding purple
My son is 4. This is his first year of tee ball, I'm coaching. I had a coach protest a game the other night. Said blue missed a call. It was sad.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
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if they are competitive enough to be doing what they are doing, they shouldnt be playing TBall. Ive never heard of 6 or 7 year old playing TBall to begin wtih
My kid will be 6 next year and he is moving up to coaches pitch. I could see late year birthday 6 year olds... but 7? That's a little old to be hitting off a tee.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 2:46 pm to barry
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agree but at 4-5 years old, to say they are playing a game is laughable.
Game 6 and some of our kids are just now begining to understand that it is a competition where one team attempts to score points while another tries to stop that.
WDE24 I agree with the no score at the youngest of age groups. I was referring to leauges that don't keep score or award a champ for older kids.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:20 pm to Bleeding purple
Our league doesn't count runs, they count outs. They team who's defense compiles the most outs wins. It's supposed to be a 5-6 year old league, but a few like me got their kid in at 4.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:26 pm to Tiger1242
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Coaches like this are in every little league sport, they are not helping the kids in the long run.
this is the major issue. That coach is just cheating his own team. Those kids will never learn, and when they move up a level, they will be developmentally behind. Take your lumps now and know that by the time your kids reach junior high, they'll be smoking those other kids, who likely will still suck.
Don't get mad, just teach them the right way to play and how to have fun. You're doing good.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:29 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
T-ball coaching ethics debate.
Teach them how to play baseball at that age and NOT what is easiest to win games. They will appreciate it in the long run. It might suck for you at first but eventually they will start getting it.
There is a not a prouder moment for a coach then when the kids start understanding the game and making the correct plays w/o you telling them exactly what to do. It will be frustrating at 1st but if the kids care then they will start "figuring it out"!
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:33 pm to Bleeding purple
My grandson is 4 and plays T ball. He has no friggin' idea what he is doing and neither do any of the other kids. At that age you should just help them with eye-hand coordination. Not organized ball.
Give them a tennis ball and let them throw it against the garage wall for an hour every day instead of watching TV.
Give them a tennis ball and let them throw it against the garage wall for an hour every day instead of watching TV.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:54 pm to Bleeding purple
Has your organization thought about combining 4 and 5 year olds and no keeping score with that particular age group? Then allow just 6 year olds to have a league of their own and tighten up the rules since they should be more advanced. Just a thought.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:01 pm to Zach
I have a 5 year old playing his first year in tball right now. About half of the kids on our team are 6 already, and we have one that will turn 7 right after the season is over. I am NOT letting him play tball again next year... he will move on to machine pitch. I can see why some kids stay in it that long though, because we only have about 3 kids on the entire team that can consistently put the ball in play when the coach pitches (they get 3 swings before its put on a tee), and only one of those is a 6 yr old.
Our league does not keep score, and honestly at this age, I don't think they should. The kids should be learning how to hit, run to the correct base, catch, throw, and where they need to throw it. They could care less about what the score is.
Our league does not keep score, and honestly at this age, I don't think they should. The kids should be learning how to hit, run to the correct base, catch, throw, and where they need to throw it. They could care less about what the score is.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:16 pm to UnoMe
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Teach your kids to quit hitting to the pitcher, set them up to hit down third base line
Please don't do as the poter suggests, just teach them what fundamentals and mechanics they can learn. Having them line up to hit the ball a certain way is just as bad and the throwing issues you originally brought up. There is not another league that they would ever "line up" to hit a baseball down the 3rd base line. Good mechanics and timing off a tee should have the hits going up the middle of the field. Don't get caught up in what the other coaches are doing because you will always have some idiots coaching Tball. One of the big things I taught all my tball teams were all the positions on the field and what they were called. I no doubt had the only team that could correctly name and go to any position on the field by themselves but it's all about teaching and having fun at that age. Too quickly you will be missing those days, it goes too fast and that comes from a father with 3 boys so make sure you and your team enjoy each practice and game. And
to you for coaching and helping out the kids.
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