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re: The ATL Offseason Thread: New Manager Edition
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:22 pm to dhuck20
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:22 pm to dhuck20
We just promoted Walt Weiss.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:23 pm to dhuck20
Welp. WALT WEISS 
This organization will never change
This organization will never change
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:23 pm to sorantable
Not a fan
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:23 pm to dhuck20
Everyone else had to turn them down or else they would have just hired Weiss when Snitker “retired”
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:33 pm to Perrydawg
AA is not good at his job
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:40 pm to Broski
What cutting edge analytics and process do the Dodgers use?
They pay twice as much for their team as anyone else and the analytics of their bullpen has people asking why Dave Roberts still has a job.
They pay twice as much for their team as anyone else and the analytics of their bullpen has people asking why Dave Roberts still has a job.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:49 pm to Rainier Fog
This organization desperately needs a shakeup because everything feels stale. They needed an outside voice at manager and to trade one or two of the "core" pieces. Instead, they looked at the last two seasons and decided to run it back.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 4:56 pm to Rainier Fog
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What cutting edge analytics and process do the Dodgers use?
They pay twice as much for their team as anyone else and the analytics of their bullpen has people asking why Dave Roberts still has a job.
They also draft really well and identify young prospects in trades.
It's why their farm ranking didn't bottom out like ours did after we graduated and traded all of our prospects away from 2022/23.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:10 pm to sorantable
Really, really disappointing hire, but not at all surprising. I'm just wondering why they waited until after the WS if this was the guy.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:43 pm to playmakers in space
I'm fine with this. Walt has earned this.
All of this hemming and hawing about wanting to get away from the Braves Way, why?
The same Braves Way that in 35 years has produced 25 winning playoff seasons, 6 World Series appearances, 2 WS titles, 21 division titles, and only 7 losing seasons. If that's taboo to some people, I don't wanna know what's bad.
Successful organizations never stray away from what makes them successful, and why they with very limited exception, hire from within.
In the end, it's all about relationships,and its like that in all walks of life.
I also realize I'm in the minority, and that's okay. We're all gonna see how it plays out, for better or worse.
All of this hemming and hawing about wanting to get away from the Braves Way, why?
The same Braves Way that in 35 years has produced 25 winning playoff seasons, 6 World Series appearances, 2 WS titles, 21 division titles, and only 7 losing seasons. If that's taboo to some people, I don't wanna know what's bad.
Successful organizations never stray away from what makes them successful, and why they with very limited exception, hire from within.
In the end, it's all about relationships,and its like that in all walks of life.
I also realize I'm in the minority, and that's okay. We're all gonna see how it plays out, for better or worse.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:08 pm to Lexis Dad
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I'm fine with this.
Least shocking post in the history of this board.
And of course you’re fine with it, you’ve already established that you’re not a real Braves fan
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:12 pm to Lexis Dad
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in 35 years has produced 25 winning playoff seasons, 6 World Series appearances, 2 WS titles, 21 division titles, and only 7 losing seasons.
The only thing that is really relevant to right now is the record under Liberty and AA. We've won a lot of games, absolutely. We've vastly underperformed in the playoffs and are in obvious gradual decline.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:28 pm to Broski
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ou’ve already established that you’re not a real Braves fan
You've said this lie so many times you actually believe it.
Pathetic.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:34 pm to Lexis Dad
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You've said this lie so many times you actually believe it.
Pathetic.
Steelers in 2021: "I'm fine with the Braves letting Freddie walk"
Steelers in 2022: "I'm fine with Orlando Arcia being the starting short stop"
Steelers in 2024: "I'm fine with the Braves letting Fried walk"
Steelers in 2025: "I'm fine with the Braves hiring Weiss"
Fake fan.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:42 pm to Broski
I did say those things, doesn’t make me.a fake fan.
If being a fan since I was 10 in 1991 makes me.a fake fan you are crazy.
It's pathetic you keep lying. Speaks more to you than me but you do you
If being a fan since I was 10 in 1991 makes me.a fake fan you are crazy.
It's pathetic you keep lying. Speaks more to you than me but you do you
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:57 pm to Lexis Dad
You're a fake fan dude, just accept it.
You are cheering for the downfall of the organization.
That's as fake as it gets.
You are cheering for the downfall of the organization.
That's as fake as it gets.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:23 pm to Broski
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It's why their farm ranking didn't bottom out like ours did after we graduated and traded all of our prospects away from 2022/23.
This, right here, is why I opposed the hiring of AA as soon as it happened. All I heard about was what a genius he supposedly was, but I watched him torpedo Toronto's farm system to trade for some aging "stars" to bolster a team that went nowhere in the playoffs. I looked at our, at the time, very strong farm system and said to myself "this guy is going to trade this all away". And that's what he did, to a large degree.
It's not that you should never trade prospects. Obviously, there are times to do it. But if you do too much of it, too quickly, you are suddenly banking on everyone on your major league roster panning out and staying healthy, because you have no organizational depth to call up or trade from. Because you went "all in" on a couple of guys in trades.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:39 pm to Metaloctopus
My issue is not necessarily that he traded away Shea Langeliers, Drew Waters and Kyle Muller. The latter two never amounted to much of anything. My issue is that he exhausted the trade bait and downgraded at first base because he got into a pissing contest with Freddie after not negotiating with him prior to the 2021 season.
We knew Dansby's contract was coming up next, we could've used what we gave up for Olson to make a move at SS.
Doing that and then trading Conteras for an older and more expensive catcher made zero sense at the time and look downright stupid now.
He's not a good GM.
We knew Dansby's contract was coming up next, we could've used what we gave up for Olson to make a move at SS.
Doing that and then trading Conteras for an older and more expensive catcher made zero sense at the time and look downright stupid now.
He's not a good GM.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:47 pm to Broski
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My issue is not necessarily that he traded away Shea Langeliers, Drew Waters and Kyle Muller. The latter two never amounted to much of anything. My issue is that he exhausted the trade bait and downgraded at first base because he got into a pissing contest with Freddie after not negotiating with him prior to the 2021 season.
That's what my point was about trading away too many prospects at once, and not having any depth to call up or trade from. Because yeah, prospects are lottery tickets in most cases, and no one knows what they'll do, but until they prove that they aren't major league talents, you have chips to trade in when you need something.
But AA traded for big names, when we already had guys in house, as you were talking about, which depleted the system, and didn't improve the roster. I've got no issue with making trades that make sense. I didn't think the trades he made in Toronto were wise, and trading for Murphy, and allowing the Freddie situation to get to a point where he backed himself into a trade for Olson, was clearly not wise.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:00 am to Metaloctopus
He deserves credit for hitting on all the bargain bin deadline moves he made in 2021. Sure it was lucky, but he was looking for specific profiles and hit the Moneyball jackpot to win us a World Series by bringing in the guys that would eventually win the MVP in the NLCS and World Series (on top of Duvall having a really good postseason as well).
The problem he ran into after that was, out of hubris or ignorance, he didn't factor in just how lucky he was that all of those deadline moves hit and instead of treating that thought process as a "last chance hail mary when all else fails", he figured he could let guys who were established in our core walk and replace them more bargain bin moves.
By doing so, he ripped out the heartbeat of the locker room and turned a potential dynasty into a team that snuck into the last wild card spot and bottomed out the following season.
It's borderline malpractice how he has handled things.
The problem he ran into after that was, out of hubris or ignorance, he didn't factor in just how lucky he was that all of those deadline moves hit and instead of treating that thought process as a "last chance hail mary when all else fails", he figured he could let guys who were established in our core walk and replace them more bargain bin moves.
By doing so, he ripped out the heartbeat of the locker room and turned a potential dynasty into a team that snuck into the last wild card spot and bottomed out the following season.
It's borderline malpractice how he has handled things.
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