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re: This Year's HoF ballot (Baseball)
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:01 pm to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:01 pm to Tigeralum2008
Rivera. In
Edgar.. hopefully he gets over the hump
Hope we can get closer with bonds and Clemons
Halladay.. probably around 60 in year one
Will be curious if Mussina keeps trending up at such a clip or begins to plateau
Schilling. Big year to see if he can gain traction or falls off again
Will be curious to see votes for Berkman and Helton
Edgar.. hopefully he gets over the hump
Hope we can get closer with bonds and Clemons
Halladay.. probably around 60 in year one
Will be curious if Mussina keeps trending up at such a clip or begins to plateau
Schilling. Big year to see if he can gain traction or falls off again
Will be curious to see votes for Berkman and Helton
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 12:03 pm
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:03 pm to Tigeralum2008
Just stopping by to say Larry Walker is a Hall of Famer
-1997 MVP, 5x All-star, 7x Gold Glove, 3x Silver Slugger, 3x Batting Champion,
-From 1997-2002, averaged .353 with a 157 OPS+
-career slash line of .313/.400/.565
-383 HR and 230 SB, only 10 players in history have more of both
-150 career assits from the outfield, 17th all time
-Higher WAR(72.6) than Gwynn and Winfield
- >4 WAR for 10 seasons, same as Griffey, Jackson, and Musial
- Career 140 wRC+, 34th in history of guys with over 8,000 PAs
Top 15 right fielders in MLB history according to WAR:
1. HOF
2. HOF
3. HOF
4. HOF
5. HOF
6. HOF
7. HOF
8. Larry Walker
9. HOF
10. HOF
11. HOF
12. HOF
13. Bobby Abreu
14. HOF
15. Ichiro Suzuki
Edit: for anyone that wants to complain about his road numbers
He has a higher career ROAD OPS than:
- Brett
-Biggio(his road OPS is higher than Biggios combined)
-Griffey
- Gwynn(his road OPS is higher than Gwynn’s combined)
- Raines(higher road OPS than Raines combined)
-1997 MVP, 5x All-star, 7x Gold Glove, 3x Silver Slugger, 3x Batting Champion,
-From 1997-2002, averaged .353 with a 157 OPS+
-career slash line of .313/.400/.565
-383 HR and 230 SB, only 10 players in history have more of both
-150 career assits from the outfield, 17th all time
-Higher WAR(72.6) than Gwynn and Winfield
- >4 WAR for 10 seasons, same as Griffey, Jackson, and Musial
- Career 140 wRC+, 34th in history of guys with over 8,000 PAs
Top 15 right fielders in MLB history according to WAR:
1. HOF
2. HOF
3. HOF
4. HOF
5. HOF
6. HOF
7. HOF
8. Larry Walker
9. HOF
10. HOF
11. HOF
12. HOF
13. Bobby Abreu
14. HOF
15. Ichiro Suzuki
Edit: for anyone that wants to complain about his road numbers
He has a higher career ROAD OPS than:
- Brett
-Biggio(his road OPS is higher than Biggios combined)
-Griffey
- Gwynn(his road OPS is higher than Gwynn’s combined)
- Raines(higher road OPS than Raines combined)
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:04 pm to Tigeralum2008
Anyone who doesn’t vote Mo in should lose their voting rights.
I mean you’ve gotta be a pretentious a-hole if you think Mariano Rivera doesn’t merit the HoF. Seriously.
I mean you’ve gotta be a pretentious a-hole if you think Mariano Rivera doesn’t merit the HoF. Seriously.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:09 pm to elprez00
quote:
Anyone who doesn’t vote Mo in should lose their voting rights.
I mean you’ve gotta be a pretentious a-hole if you think Mariano Rivera doesn’t merit the HoF. Seriously.
10 highest percentages
Ken Griffey, Jr.2016 440 437 99.32%
Tom Seaver 1992 430 425 98.84%
Nolan Ryan 1999 497 491 98.79%
Cal Ripken, Jr 2007 545 537 98.53%
Ty Cobb 1936 226 222 98.23%
George Brett 1999 497 488 98.19%
Hank Aaron 1982 415 406 97.83%
Tony Gwynn 2007 545 532 97.61%
Randy Johnson 2015 549 534 97.27%
Greg Maddux 2014 571 555 97.20%
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:11 pm to devils1854
Yeah it is a joke, Maddux should have had 100%
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:12 pm to Tigeralum2008
1. Bonds
2. Clemens
3. Helton
4. Jones
5. Martinez
6. Mussina
7. Ramirez
8. Rivera
9. Schilling
10. Walker
2. Clemens
3. Helton
4. Jones
5. Martinez
6. Mussina
7. Ramirez
8. Rivera
9. Schilling
10. Walker
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:12 pm to devils1854
Oh I know devils, and I always look forward to the inevitable explanations we’ll get from the 2 or 3 people that won’t.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:14 pm to Tigeralum2008
No Will Clark;No Care
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:14 pm to elprez00
I'd love to hear some explanations from voters on some of their selections? Like if they leave Mo off but then vote for only 6 players, what is their justification?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:17 pm to Spyral37
I understand the the coors field affect. I’ll argue against a pure road/home split view of stats with walker as well and also find it a travesty that he’s not in the hall.. he was a quentisential five tool player..
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:26 pm to tduecen
Couple potential reasons
-Just want attention.
-their attempt to “preserve” the HoF by no one being 100%
-they know someone is guaranteed to make it in so instead of using a vote there they use it on someone that’s borderline off the ballot
Believe there was also a voter that only voted for players that were on the team he covered.
-Just want attention.
-their attempt to “preserve” the HoF by no one being 100%
-they know someone is guaranteed to make it in so instead of using a vote there they use it on someone that’s borderline off the ballot
Believe there was also a voter that only voted for players that were on the team he covered.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:27 pm to Spyral37
quote:
Believe there was also a voter that only voted for players that were on the team he covered.
He posts here under lsuhoohoo.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:31 pm to Spyral37
I get that, but I think if they had to explain their reasoning you would see some of that diminish. Like if a writer came out and just said, "I didn't vote for him because I didn't want him to get 100%."
It would also eliminate those who leave off certain players who are going in while not filling the ballot.
Like if someone voted
Bonds
Clemens
Walker
Halladay
Mussina
Schilling
McGriff
Martinez
Manny
Kent
and left off Mo because they felt he was getting in and wanted other players they felt were deserving a chance, I could understand that one. But some do this and then don't fill out the 10 slots on the ballot
It would also eliminate those who leave off certain players who are going in while not filling the ballot.
Like if someone voted
Bonds
Clemens
Walker
Halladay
Mussina
Schilling
McGriff
Martinez
Manny
Kent
and left off Mo because they felt he was getting in and wanted other players they felt were deserving a chance, I could understand that one. But some do this and then don't fill out the 10 slots on the ballot
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:39 pm to Tigeralum2008
No to PEDS
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:40 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:
Barry needs to be inducted this year PERIOD one of the most dominating players of ALL-TIME travesty he had to wait this long
I predict Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling will all be inducted in 2021. The HOF ballot will be void of any other strong HOF candidates. Jeter, Rivera, Halladay, Martinez and Mussina will all be inducted by then and there will be no strong first ballot HOF candidates that year. It will be the perfect year to unclog the ballot by inducting those three.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:42 pm to TROLA
Just made an edit to quickly throw up his road numbers compared to other guys in the Hall.
I get people say his road numbers are so much less than his home numbers. But his roads number are still great
I get people say his road numbers are so much less than his home numbers. But his roads number are still great
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:47 pm to tduecen
Yeah I definitely wasn’t defending those people just some possible reasons behind it. For the guys that leave off players that are 95% voted in to vote for guys that they believe should be kept on the ballot or on the cusp of getting in I can at least understand that.
The guys that leave people off when they have open slots or won’t vote for first year players, can’t stand them.
I believe the voting is public now too so hopefully that helps
The guys that leave people off when they have open slots or won’t vote for first year players, can’t stand them.
I believe the voting is public now too so hopefully that helps
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:48 pm to ecb
Gonna be hard to leave out those guys when the commissioner that oversaw and profited off the steroid era was inducted
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:50 pm to Spyral37
quote:
Gonna be hard to leave out those guys when the commissioner that oversaw and profited off the steroid era was inducted
inducting owners and commissioners into sports hall of fames is so self serving and weird to me
Remember i had this take first before we watch Roger goodell getting inducted in a few years
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:00 pm to wildtigercat93
Oh it’s very self serving, especially for commissioners. Only been 10 total including Manfred now and 5 are in the Hall. The only ones that aren’t, held the position for less than 5 years
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