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Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:41 pm to Joker
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:41 pm to Joker
Definition of a football move
Completed catch.
quote:
When a catch is made by a receiver who comes down with both feet on the ground, the "football move" would be: stretching for a first down, diving out-of-bounds or running with the ball. If the "football move" is accomplished, and the receiver is then hit and the ball comes out, it is ruled a catch and fumble, instead of an incomplete forward pass.
Completed catch.
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:42 pm to dukke v
Eye witness testimony is very unreliable.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:42 pm to Catman88
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It is not clear and indisputable.
Also true.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:42 pm to Byron Bojangles III
The ref on Fox was saying its not about the steps
Thats insane
Thats insane
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:42 pm to Joker
UNTIL a football move is made. He made one in switching hands and extending that ball. That is a very key part to the rule. Otherwise it would apply to all catches.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:43 pm to LordoftheManor
quote:Damn. That is indisputable a TD then. He 100% stretched for the goal line
quote:
When a catch is made by a receiver who comes down with both feet on the ground, the "football move" would be: stretching for a first down, diving out-of-bounds or running with the ball. If the "football move" is accomplished, and the receiver is then hit and the ball comes out, it is ruled a catch and fumble, instead of an incomplete forward pass.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:44 pm to Catman88
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That definitely unclear if a football move is made or not. correct ruling should be call on field stands. I don't get how people can forget the rule that is required to overturn a call. That itself trumps the catch rule in this case. It is not clear and indisputable.
Exactly. It was driving me insane that none of the NFL "experts" on Fox brought this up.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:did he stretch the ball towards the goalline?
Yes, it's that simple. Not sure how anyone could see otherwise. It was called correctly according to the rules.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
Even the official on Fox mentioned the football move but mentioned he ' was not sure if it was enough' the very fact that its insure is enough to make the ruling on the field stand.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:45 pm to TOKEN
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The ref on Fox was saying its not about the steps
It's not. It's about maintaining control through the catch. That's what makes it incomplete, not the steps.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:45 pm to TOKEN
double post
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Here is a still image of the bottom of the football, centimeters from the ground. Notice Bryant's elbow also on the ground.
Here is a still image milliseconds later where the back of Bryant's hand is clearly visible, meaning it is certainly not under the football. The ball hits the ground as clear as day. A football move and the interpretation of the rule can be argued all day, but if you're going to argue whether or not the ball hits the ground then you come across as a biased observer.
Here is a still image milliseconds later where the back of Bryant's hand is clearly visible, meaning it is certainly not under the football. The ball hits the ground as clear as day. A football move and the interpretation of the rule can be argued all day, but if you're going to argue whether or not the ball hits the ground then you come across as a biased observer.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:46 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:as has been said, he made a football move, so the completed catch was already done,so the rest doesn't apply.
It's about maintaining control through the catch. That's what makes it incomplete, not the steps
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:46 pm to lsupride87
quote:
When a catch is made by a receiver who comes down with both feet on the ground, the "football move" would be: stretching for a first down, diving out-of-bounds or running with the ball. If the "football move" is accomplished, and the receiver is then hit and the ball comes out, it is ruled a catch and fumble, instead of an incomplete forward pass
Irrelevant. Not what happened. See my earlier post.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:49 pm to shel311
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he made a football move
That's debatable.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:50 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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The ball hits the ground as clear as day.
Are there really people in here arguing the ball never touched the ground...
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
So then the call should stand
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
If its not about the steps then a 70 yard run should be an incompletion also if the ball bobbles on the ground right ?
Only and idiot ref would call that an incompletion.
Only and idiot ref would call that an incompletion.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:50 pm to brgfather129
Yes. Several arguing that and also claiming they're unbiased.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 3:51 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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That's debatable
Then it's not indisputable.
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