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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:31 am to
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:31 am to
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If it gets to that, Universities should drop sports and let the pro's develop their own minor leagues.



Completely agree. I don't think the Universities want to let go of the revenue streams though. I can imagine a lot of the smaller schools may cancel football, or turn it into a club type sport, if that's even possible, if this type of model takes over.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Panama City, Florida
Member since Aug 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:56 am to
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Vinny Testaverde because he had some kind of bullshite physical education major. He showed up once for a pool day, never actually dove in the ocean and still passed.
Typical Guinea mob favor bullshite
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6274 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:38 am to
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1950’s is the last time football had student athletes. Other sports were later.

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Colleges offered all manner of compensation to talented athletes. Yale reportedly lured a tackle named James Hogan with free meals and tuition, a trip to Cuba, the exclusive right to sell scorecards from his games—and a job as a cigarette agent for the American Tobacco Company. Ibid.; see also Needham, The College Athlete, McClure’s Magazine, June 1905, p. 124. The absence of academic residency requirements gave rise to “ ‘tramp athletes’ ” who “roamed the country making cameo athletic appearances, moving on whenever and wherever the money was better.” F. Dealy, Win at Any Cost 71 (1990). One famous example was a law student at West Virginia University—Fielding H. Yost— “who, in 1896, transferred to Lafayette as a freshman just in time to lead his new teammates to victory against its arch-rival, Penn.” Ibid. The next week, he “was back at West Virginia’s law school.” Ibid. College sports became such a big business that Woodrow Wilson, then President of Princeton University, quipped to alumni in 1890 that “ ‘Princeton is noted in this wide world for three things: football, baseball, and collegiate instruction.’ ”

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Ehhh its always been shady
Posted by LSUtigerNVegas
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2024
572 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:39 am to
You can’t skip college. I mean I guess you can but no NFL team is drafting a player who hasn’t played in 3 years and the last tape on him was against HS kids. The NFL has a rule about being 3 years removed from HS. They aren’t budging on that either. Players can try and challenge it all they want, they won’t win. The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement and antitrust exemptions that hold in court.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5825 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:58 am to
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They aren’t budging on that either. Players can try and challenge it all they want, they won’t win. The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement and antitrust exemptions that hold in court.


We in a time now I could see the NFL losing in court… depends on the judge… I agree with the 3 year rule but with colleges having to pay players now they can’t afford to be the minor league for the NFL anymore… under the current format eventually NFL teams would have to subsidize college conferences… which is only right seeing as their entire pool of employees come from that system
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34315 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:14 pm to
but they can easily flunk out they don't have basket weaving classes there.
Posted by havoclax
Go Armyland. Beat bammerville.
Member since Feb 2008
420 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:26 pm to
We still call them student athletes at West Point. Same at the other academies. No NIL. Transfer portal only one way- out. We had a Heisman Finalist and a Tewaaraton Award Finalist (Heisman equivalent for lacrosse).

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7 All American lacrosse guys. 2 First Team. The 2 second teamers deserved 1st Team.

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Football won the AAC first year in conference. Only bummer of the season was choking to navy.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12799 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 6:27 pm to
But you said they don’t get money… they do. They are considered employees. Not what NIL or as much as old recruiting practices but they’ve always received money. You said they didn’t.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12799 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 6:35 pm to
Would they even be students? If not then they will do a disservice to the athletes when only what 2 percent really make it?

Think requiring class, grades etc will have to remain.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5502 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 9:38 pm to
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I mean I guess you can but no NFL team is drafting a player who hasn’t played in 3 years and the last tape on him was against HS kids.

I bet they would if he has the tools they are looking for and has stayed in shape, studied the game, and developed with coaches, etc.

College programs have no leverage over the players. The best ones are going to the NFL one way or another.
Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
512 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:01 pm to
The top schools-Ivy League, Stanford, Duke, Rice, Vandy and Notre Dame have legit student athletes. Also the D-III
schools, mostly in the Northeast.
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