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re: Who actually likes “travel ball”
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:34 pm to Tiger Ike
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:34 pm to Tiger Ike
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But ultimately, it's all about the parents thinking if their kid is good enough, they could be friends with Jenny Finch.
So because they'll never be Jenny Finch, they shouldn't play? Even so, good for you for playing golf with your daughter, something you can enjoy together for q very long time.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:36 pm to Stevo
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So because they'll never be Jenny Finch, they shouldn't play?
Not what he said.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:40 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Not what he said.
Not what he said.
Then it's worse, because he's engaged in some major projection.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:41 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Mandeville rec ball has only 7 teams in the 10 year old division right now.
That’s what we are finding out for softball and baseball Nan’s it sucks. I wish there was still rec ball that was competitive but it seems like BR is nothing but private leagues formed with cliques of teams. If you don’t know a team you are SOL.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:43 pm to Stevo
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So because they'll never be Jenny Finch, they shouldn't play? Even so, good for you for playing golf with your daughter, something you can enjoy together for q very long time
These same heavy footed girls who my daughter has beat up on now have a superiority complex because of their affliation.
I myself played travel from age 11 to 18. I also played in high school and Juco. My wife and I feel that a softball player is not the type of person we are trying to raise. It just seems lame that those girls think they are special because that is the route they're parents have chosen.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:43 pm to lsudocts
My gf’s kid had a tryout for travel hockey last month. He’s a damn good goalie, but he’s 9. I wanted him to do well, but I also didn’t want him to make it either. shite is crazy expensive. One parent said they’ve already paid $15k this year. These kids are in 9U!! Wtf
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:46 pm to Stevo
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Then it's worse, because he's engaged in some major projection
What?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:51 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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I’ve been a high school baseball coach for 15 years and this simply isn’t true. The pay to play organizations that tell families they won’t be ready for high school if they don’t play with their club are lying thru their teeth to get your money.
I don’t care you’re a baseball coach. You’re taking a cliche section of travel ball and thinking that’s what my intending thoughts were.
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Anything athletically that happens before puberty is meaningless anyway.
It’s like I said unless your kid is the physical specimen. I acknowledged this about the puberty ages.
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Lots of those 12 year old stars will be program kids who will get a handful of ABs on varsity as a senior. Tale as old as time
So what’s your point though in reality, at least these kids played competitive ball and had great memories for a few years than having nothing at all. It’s not like if they didn’t play travel ball, they would have been better off, that’s not true at all.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:51 pm to lsudocts
When I was growing up, we would go to like two or three travel ball tournaments with our Dixie team before the season kicked off. That was about it. Then we’d play all stars after the season and were typically good enough to make deep World Series runs that would last until August. We were burned out by the time we were done with baseball in August too. Can’t imagine playing year round, it honestly sounds terrible thinking about it.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bro…you don’t even have kids…stfu you have no clue what you are talking about
99% in this thread have no fricking clue
If you think travel ball and rec ball are remotely the same you have no clue, especially at high aaa and majors ball. Two remotely different sports.
A) it’s not really travel, more tournament, even majors team don’t have to leave the state
B) rec leagues are dead get the frick over it, rec ball sucks for development
C) 99 % of the kids play other sports and they sure as hell don’t play 100 games a year. More like 50
D) do you really think you are making a team like barbe, St. Louis, Sam Houston, Sulphur by playing rec ball? If you do than you don’t know shite
E) travel is good for all the kids including the rec kids. The rec kids get to play positions they normally wouldn’t and get more playing time and get to have fun. The differ t levels of travel keep you playing against the competition you should be playing
F) it’s not that expensive. It’s $1500 plus uniforms at most. 90% of teams in the state travel less than an hour to play unless they want to do more
G) it’s not parents living though kids, quite the opposite. You see some of that at younger levels but the competitive nature weeds those kids out or delegates them to aa ball quickly. High levels you don’t see that shot and parents are calm as hell, more like hs than anything.
Could go on and on, but bottom line is you aren’t making the types of high school teams that routinly play in Sulphur by playing rec league. Believe what you want though.
99% in this thread have no fricking clue
If you think travel ball and rec ball are remotely the same you have no clue, especially at high aaa and majors ball. Two remotely different sports.
A) it’s not really travel, more tournament, even majors team don’t have to leave the state
B) rec leagues are dead get the frick over it, rec ball sucks for development
C) 99 % of the kids play other sports and they sure as hell don’t play 100 games a year. More like 50
D) do you really think you are making a team like barbe, St. Louis, Sam Houston, Sulphur by playing rec ball? If you do than you don’t know shite
E) travel is good for all the kids including the rec kids. The rec kids get to play positions they normally wouldn’t and get more playing time and get to have fun. The differ t levels of travel keep you playing against the competition you should be playing
F) it’s not that expensive. It’s $1500 plus uniforms at most. 90% of teams in the state travel less than an hour to play unless they want to do more
G) it’s not parents living though kids, quite the opposite. You see some of that at younger levels but the competitive nature weeds those kids out or delegates them to aa ball quickly. High levels you don’t see that shot and parents are calm as hell, more like hs than anything.
Could go on and on, but bottom line is you aren’t making the types of high school teams that routinly play in Sulphur by playing rec league. Believe what you want though.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:00 pm to lsudocts
We enjoyed our kids playing travel soccer and baseball. We usually made mini vacations out of the trips and for baseball we were lucky enough to live near a big sportsplex that hosted a lot of great tournaments.
I stayed away from most of the parents in the years I wasn't coaching and I had a great time in the years I did coach. I have kept close contact with a lot of the players. I met a MLB scout the other day that had played against a lot of kids I had coached while he was in the minors.
I stayed away from most of the parents in the years I wasn't coaching and I had a great time in the years I did coach. I have kept close contact with a lot of the players. I met a MLB scout the other day that had played against a lot of kids I had coached while he was in the minors.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Same as sports at any level, so it's not an argument for travel/tourney ball specifically.
Rec ball is a new team every 6 months. Most travel ball kids play together for years and actually form family friendships.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:03 pm to lsu777
About time someone else who knows what they’re talking about weighed in. Well done!
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:05 pm to lsudocts
There are a ton of politics involved in travel ball as well as High School ball. Not playing on a travel team absolutely will put your kid at a disadvantage toward making their High School team. Especially if that travel team is a feeder type program. Now obviously raw talent will win out most of the time but the kid will start off behind the 8ball. It’s just the reality.
Why High School football >. Talent will always win.
Why High School football >. Talent will always win.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:07 pm to Stevo
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Lol, it’s 100% fact if your kid wants to play for almost any LHSAA team that’s worth a shite. Where have you been coaching baseball these past 15 years?
DFW suburbs 6A level. It’s decent baseball. A few years ago I coached a 1st round draft pick who played boys and girls club until he was 14, obviously he was an outlier but my point is the same. Have a kid this year who is 92-95 and going to Oklahoma and he didn’t start playing club baseball until the summer after his freshman year. Lots of stories like that
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:09 pm to lsu777
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Could go on and on, but bottom line is you aren’t making the types of high school teams that routinly play in Sulphur by playing rec league. Believe what you want though.
Most people aren’t arguing this. Most are lamenting that tournament ball has completely killed middle to upper middle level competition.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:12 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Lots of stories like that
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he was an outlier
You barely have a few. They are outliers. Outliers aren’t benefiting cause they didn’t play travel ball. They are just physically different at puberty. How many kids that didn’t get the high school experience they desired w playing time that played travel ball?? Lots right, so why don’t you have the mentality that at least they tried their best and made the most of it instead of being a snob high school coach jackass who thinks his school structure is superior to all else.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:13 pm to lsu777
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lsu777
Your devotion to travel ball is inspiring brother bear.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Absurdity? The absurdity is you being bothered how people spend their money…it’s 1500 dollars, who gives a shite. Little league is 200 for 10 games. Who care how other people spend their money
And who cares about a college scholarship? Sports scholarships suck outside of football and in state college is cheap anyways.
Most of the coaches requires certain grades on top of all the other lessons they learn from travel.
I was just like y’all…thought travel was dumb AF and all kinds of other shite that non parents on this board spew….until I actually went and got involved in little league. This is my 8th year coaching my oldest in rec and my younger two sons are in travel.
Rec ball sucks. The kids are disrespectful, don’t have any desire to be there and plain suck except for a very few handful of kids who still aren’t that good. The parents are way worse and you are nothing but a baby sitter
Look go up to barbe and ask who played travel and who didn’t…everyone did and at the higher levels. Most played together since kids
Same at St. Louis, Sulphur, Sam Houston
Why you think St. Louis vs barbe was so emotional this year? Those kids all played together growing up.
I’ll just say you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this sfp. The people that have kids in travel can afford it, we aren’t talking your clients. For most the 1500 is nothing. And for the ones that it is a lot, most teams have plenty of fund raising opportunities.
Bottom line is if your kid wants to make a high school team.. you better be stupid gifted or you better start playing travel and developing the skills that scale
Other thing is 99% of the state doesn’t have 13/14 year old leagues so you have to play as 7/8th graders.
The comment by the coach about 12 year old super stars sucking as seniors…always been the case and it’s because the kids catch up if the super star isn’t out working them and out lifting them
Most kids have always quit organized sports after 12 unless you wanted to play hs sports. So it isn’t devastating rec leagues. Who cares if the better kids aren’t there, let’s the others get playing time they otherwise wouldn’t
And who cares about a college scholarship? Sports scholarships suck outside of football and in state college is cheap anyways.
Most of the coaches requires certain grades on top of all the other lessons they learn from travel.
I was just like y’all…thought travel was dumb AF and all kinds of other shite that non parents on this board spew….until I actually went and got involved in little league. This is my 8th year coaching my oldest in rec and my younger two sons are in travel.
Rec ball sucks. The kids are disrespectful, don’t have any desire to be there and plain suck except for a very few handful of kids who still aren’t that good. The parents are way worse and you are nothing but a baby sitter
Look go up to barbe and ask who played travel and who didn’t…everyone did and at the higher levels. Most played together since kids
Same at St. Louis, Sulphur, Sam Houston
Why you think St. Louis vs barbe was so emotional this year? Those kids all played together growing up.
I’ll just say you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this sfp. The people that have kids in travel can afford it, we aren’t talking your clients. For most the 1500 is nothing. And for the ones that it is a lot, most teams have plenty of fund raising opportunities.
Bottom line is if your kid wants to make a high school team.. you better be stupid gifted or you better start playing travel and developing the skills that scale
Other thing is 99% of the state doesn’t have 13/14 year old leagues so you have to play as 7/8th graders.
The comment by the coach about 12 year old super stars sucking as seniors…always been the case and it’s because the kids catch up if the super star isn’t out working them and out lifting them
Most kids have always quit organized sports after 12 unless you wanted to play hs sports. So it isn’t devastating rec leagues. Who cares if the better kids aren’t there, let’s the others get playing time they otherwise wouldn’t
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:14 pm to Riolobo
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Every kid who starts at Barbe plays travel ball. Same for West Monroe. It’s not going anywhere
Those are the top two
Now go down the 5A rankings. It might be a while before you get to a team where it isn’t the case
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