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re: Will Trevor Lawrence ever live up to the hype?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:12 pm to danilo
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:12 pm to danilo
The problem is these franchise want to rebuild their rosters and they stupidly start it off with drafting a QB in the first 10 picks or so and expecting them to make a dookie roster work. When you rebuild a team, you get an offensive line, you get a quality defense, build a good, versatile running back room and then go get your franchise qb. This has worked for New England, Seattle, Kansas City, and Philadelphia but idiotic franchises keep trying to go against the formula and they wonder why they continuously are mediocre to bad.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
Just go watch the tape of the CFP National Championship game against LSU. He has all the physical tools, but he's not very accurate. He throws a lot of fastballs with no arc when he should be throwing touch passes. He overthrows dudes a lot. It was really obvious watching that game in person.
He'll make a few throws a game that only guys like him can make, but he has an equal number of throws that miss receivers badly.
He's just very inconsistent.
He'll make a few throws a game that only guys like him can make, but he has an equal number of throws that miss receivers badly.
He's just very inconsistent.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:26 pm to TheePalmetto
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The problem is these franchise want to rebuild their rosters and they stupidly start it off with drafting a QB in the first 10 picks or so and expecting them to make a dookie roster work. When you rebuild a team, you get an offensive line, you get a quality defense, build a good, versatile running back room and then go get your franchise qb. This has worked for New England, Seattle, Kansas City, and Philadelphia but idiotic franchises keep trying to go against the formula and they wonder why they continuously are mediocre to bad.
He was largely considered a generation prospect. If you don’t take THAT then who the hell are you going to take?
Honestly I think we will learn ALOT about him this year Coen will at least bring a modern offense there and he’s away from the Taylor/Pedersen antiquated offense. Don’t even mention urban fricking Meyer. He may not be what he was touted as but he’s a had a pretty shite hand in terms of who was supposedly developing him.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:29 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
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He throws a lot of fastballs with no arc when he should be throwing touch passes. He overthrows dudes a lot. It was really obvious watching that game in person.
This is honestly the biggest issue to me.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
Lawrence has all the talent anyone could ever be born with. Just needs to want it more.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:06 pm to RLDSC FAN
A bunch of these younger cats seem like uncoachable divas.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:11 pm to TheePalmetto
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When you rebuild a team, you get an offensive line, you get a quality defense, build a good, versatile running back room and then go get your franchise qb. This has worked for New England, Seattle, Kansas City, and Philadelphia
The problem with this cherry picked example is everyone wants to believe there is some magic formula paint by numbers and there just isn’t. The key as actually being a well run, organization.
The Cowboys built a team after taking Troy Aikman #1, The Colts with P Manning. Carolina was 15-1 in a SB in year 4 after taking Cam. Cincinnati actually drafted OL in the first round in both drafts before taking Burrow. They also had success early in his career. They have since regressed but that’s because it’s a bad organization, the OL they took in 18-19 did not pan out. Merely drafting certain positions doesn’t matter if you don’t hit.
Also I would not count NE in your example of building a super team and then getting a QB they took Bledsoe #1 and we’re the SB 3 years later. They stumbled into a 6th round pick that turned into the greatest QB ever. KC had a good team that hit a ceiling with Alex Smith, that’s the best example.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:14 pm to TheePalmetto
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When you rebuild a team, you get an offensive line, you get a quality defense, build a good, versatile running back room and then go get your franchise qb. This has worked for New England, Seattle, Kansas City, and Philadelphia
Only one of these thought they were drafting a franchise qb and none of them were rebuilding.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:25 pm to St Augustine
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You do realize they’re building a new stadium in Jacksonville right? They’re locked in until 2058.
I still believe
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:44 pm to saintsfan22
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Only one of these thought they were drafting a franchise qb and none of them were rebuilding.
Ehhh New England wasn’t rebuilding when Tom Brady took over but they had everything around him to set him up for success. The other three had absolutely gone through different degrees of rebuilding when they picked Wilson, Mahomes, and Hurts and those guys were the missing pieces.
The point is, if you have a terrible roster, you don’t draft a qb to turn it all around. You put what a young qb needs to grow and succeed in place and then get them.
Pittsburgh with Big Ben is an example of this. Baltimore with Joe Flacco is another example but they really needed a new HC to move them forward at that time.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:53 pm to TheePalmetto
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The other three had absolutely gone through different degrees of rebuilding when they picked Wilson, Mahomes, and Hurts and those guys were the missing pieces
If your definition of different degrees is "at some point in history they were rebuilding". The Seahawks were coming off a back to back 7-9 seasons. They were mediocre but not rebuilding. The Chiefs were coming off 12-4 and the Eagles 9-7 division championship.
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Pittsburgh with Big Ben is an example of this.
It's really not. Their roster is always good and they haven't really "rebuilt" since the 80s. They just happened to have an off year because they trusted the qb job to Tommy Maddox and they lucked into Roethlisberger falling to them at 11 in a good qb draft.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
If he does, it isnt going to be for the Jags,
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
I said he was going to be a bust 5 years ago.
Hopefully TTsTowel drops by to take his fricking L on the issue like a man.
Hopefully TTsTowel drops by to take his fricking L on the issue like a man.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:16 pm to ragincajun03
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Montana was a 3rd round pick.
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What was Montana’s draft stock?
Walsh: “There wasn’t any question when Sam and I got on the plane to come back that Joe was in our plans. Now, it was when can we draft him? Our team was in desperate need of virtually every position. We did not have a wide receiver. So we needed a wide receiver, some speed. We didn’t have a first-round draft choice and a number of choices, all because of the O.J. trade. We had Dallas’ pick in the third round, right at the end of the third round. And we had a second-round pick.
Was Montana a secret gem?
Walsh: “Sam and I got on the plane (back from L.A.) and said, ‘We want Joe. Now we have to decide when to draft him. Do we take him with our second pick or can we wait and take him in the third round? We canvassed every team in the league, one way or another. We didn’t state why we were calling but we always brought up his name along with others.
“And we were the dregs of NFL football. Nobody could really take us very seriously. We found as many people as possible that would respond to our phone calls, and to a man, even those that were pretty high up in scouting and personnel, either felt he would not be drafted and would play up in Canada or he’d be drafted fifth round or later. That was the consensus.
“The consensus feeling among people is he wasn’t big enough, he couldn’t throw the ball far enough and had been inconsistent in college, because he didn’t start every game in college.
“But they couldn’t see his instincts and his competitiveness and more than anything else, his ability to control a game, as he did in the Cotton Bowl. If they couldn’t see that, what more could they see about a quarterback? We knew he’d be instinctive and move. He’d proven that on tape when he played.”
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:17 pm to LSUtiger89
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What does this mean?
Not a bad thing
That God is his reason for being and family
The ones that are ultra drive it can be argued that football is their god.
Look at the stories about the sacrifices Brady made or Brees spending so many extra hours working.
I see TL leaving the facility at 3pm and shutting it off.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:21 pm to TideSaint
quote:I have no dog in this but that $200M extension ain’t helping you. You’ll be lucky if you get a draw.
I said he was going to be a bust 5 years ago.
Hopefully TTsTowel drops by to take his fricking L on the issue like a man.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:23 pm to VADawg
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He has been living off of his high school recruiting ranking and one game against Alabama when he threw a bunch of jump balls to tall WRs for about 7 years now.
Not getting into a fight about that game but outside of the 1 thow that Ross brought back from behind, show me the jump balls. The other one to Ross that he caught with 1 hand, it was perfect and the DB was holding Ross other hand. The last TD to Higgins was a strike and was put in the only place it could have been. He missed the screen that would have been a TD at the end ofnthe 1st half. He was on fire that night, imo his best overall game.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 8:35 pm to ragincajun03
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But he doesn't seem like a dude who went out and promoted himself or asked for all this hype.
This is the truth. He's NFL caliber but maybe bottom third of the league or one of those guys who would have been an amazing perennial backup. But since he got the hype he got expectations thrust upon him.
I forgot who it was talking about Kwame Brown, who had a nice middling NBA career, saying "it's not Kwame's fault he got drafted as high as he did." Same thing with Lawrence.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 11:40 pm to lsufball19
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He was prett damn good in college after that ALabama game. His first loss as a starter was the national title game in 2019 against an all-time great team. His next and only other loss in his career was the national title game the following year (he was hurt in their loss to ND that year and didn't play)
Man I forgot just how bad the ACC has been. In 2019 they went 14-1 (8-0) while every team in their division was 8-5 (4-4) or worse. They beat a 9-5 Virginia team in the ACCCG. Their "big" non-conference wins were against 8-5 Texas A&M at home and on the road at 4-8 South Carolina. Maybe their competition helped make him look even better in college. Oh and the second loss was in the Semifinals to tOSU not in the natty.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 7:46 am to BamaDude06
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Their "big" non-conference wins were against 8-5 Texas A&M at home and on the road at 4-8 South Carolina
What conference were A&M and So Carolina in?
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