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re: Black Mirror Season 6 - Netflix Original - June 2023
Posted on 6/17/23 at 12:55 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Posted on 6/17/23 at 12:55 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Beyond the Sea is classic Black Mirror! It was obvious what direction it was going to go in, but I'm guessing most of us were expecting a different ending.
I think the ending we expected would have been much more satisfying. The one we got felt a little forced.
But definitely the best episode that I've watched so far this season. Great premise, story, and execution.
Didn't like Loch Henry. Had no sci-fi or moral/warning to humanity that Black Mirror episodes are supposed to have.
This post was edited on 6/17/23 at 12:58 am
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Posted on 6/17/23 at 1:54 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Didn't like Loch Henry.
I’m going to have to disagree with that. Loch Henry and Beyond the Sea are the only two episodes, IMO that are worth finishing, however after a few minutes of Beyond the Sea a 10 year old kid could see the possible outcomes. Maybe, the same could be said about Loch Henry but that episode just felt better to me.
Posted on 6/17/23 at 12:33 pm to gizmothepug
I’m not sure if the initial attraction to this show has worn off or if they’re just running out of ideas and shifting the overall theme. 4 episodes in and not a huge fan. Seems more like a poor man’s twilight zone.
This post was edited on 6/17/23 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/17/23 at 4:44 pm to BabyTac
I've watched Joan is Awful, Loch Henry, and Beyond the Sea so far, and I've enjoyed all of them.
The interweaving of Loch Henry and Joan is awful is really cool, and adds a little later to Joan is Awful after the fact.
Beyond the Sea was an amazingly written piece of sci-fi, imo.
I kind of agree that it would have been cool for it to end with Aaron Paul locked in space until he dies, but you have to remember that they can't make it back home without each other. Now, neither of them have anything, and Aaron Paul will be getting the death penalty when he gets back.
Truly fricked up
The interweaving of Loch Henry and Joan is awful is really cool, and adds a little later to Joan is Awful after the fact.
Beyond the Sea was an amazingly written piece of sci-fi, imo.
I kind of agree that it would have been cool for it to end with Aaron Paul locked in space until he dies, but you have to remember that they can't make it back home without each other. Now, neither of them have anything, and Aaron Paul will be getting the death penalty when he gets back.
Truly fricked up
Posted on 6/17/23 at 11:25 pm to WaltTeevens
Beyond the Sea is up there with the best Black Mirror has ever done. Incredible.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:29 am to Damone
Beyond The Sea was my least favorite of the 5. But, they were all good this season. Very pleasant surprise for me as my expectations were low after how awful the last season was.
Tons of Easter eggs in this season. Who saw the creepy dog in Demon 79?
Tons of Easter eggs in this season. Who saw the creepy dog in Demon 79?
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 7:30 am to finchmeister08
So far i've watched joan is awful, loch henry, and mazey day. Spoilers below from those 3:
Joan is Awful- This one was alright to me. I don't think it's nearly as terrible as some people are making out. The concept was pretty neat and it had great potential as a story. As others have menitoned, having a shitton of famous actors in season 6 unlike in the majority of the rest of teh show could be distracting, but annie murphy and selma kayek were kinda necessary in this case being that they are actresses playing the role for the show. I don't know if I'd venture to rate this anything higher than "good to pretty good" and probably won't ever watch it again but it was ok.
I will say, it was a little distracting that right out of the gates within the first 5 minutes we have 1) an interractial couple with a white woman and indian-ish man 2) a gay secretary that we eventaully see with his gay partner 3) a gay female minority that we eventauly see with her gay partner. In the past, even 5 years ago, I never cared that home invasions on TV only show whities and most commercials with a smart person and a byumbling oaf usually has the smart person as a minority, those things are easy to gloss over and ignore. But FFS TV/movie media in 2023 just continues to beat us over the head wiht this shite. You'd think anyone that isn't gay or a minority is some kind of strange weirdo based on entertainment media.
Loch Henry- Really good. I enjoyed this one a lot (worth pointing out that the main couple is interracial, and one of the least common pairings out there btw). When we get to the reval about the mom that truly surprised me. I was on edge most of the second half of the episode. My only real gripe is what happened to the female lead. She's runnign away for her life and is in a shallow stream, falls, and hits her head on a rock and passes out and dies/drowns. C'mon. For a show that has a history of coming up with incredible twists and turns you're going to do that? It's like the writers said "well we have to get rid of her somehow because we dont' really need her for trhe rest of the plot, let's just have her fall and die". It seemed incredibly lazy. Overall though I really like this one and would probably watch again in the future.
Mazey Day- Dog shite. Complete and total crap. It has nothing to do with black mirror at all in any way. It's not a compelling story. Nothing stands out at all. This is somethign Id' expect from an 8th grade creative writing class. "Uh, um...let's see. You ahve a celebrity that is dryunk and hits someone. Kinda like I know what you did last summer! Let's use that as a start. But um...it's a werewolf! Yeah, yeah, a werewolf! So uh..nobody knows where the celebrity is but some papparrazi track her down and see she's a wolf and it kills them but then the protagonist turns her back". This was insulting to me as a viewer. We know literally nothing about the origin or backstory of this werewolf creatrue. We're given zero reason to care about any character in this story. The police officer shoots the werewolf like 5 times at point blank range which does no damange, then the main character shoots it once wiht the same gun and that works. How did the spiritual guru person know she was a werewolf? The whole story was just shite.
But on topic of that, here's one final insult. I looked at the wiki page to see if it was going ot be universally shat on like it deserves to be, and saw that the "daily telegraph" gave it 5 stars out of 5. I was intrigued because this doens't seem possible or comprehensible in any way so I cliked the link. I think went from being angry to simply laughing. Here's the article lead: "A thrilling snapshot of early Noughties celeb culture. Modelled on the likes of Lindsay Lohan and Mischa Barton and featuring a Muse soundtrack, this is Charlie Brooker firing on all cylinders". Imagine being so out of touch with reality that you'd give this pile of shite 5 stars.
Joan is Awful- This one was alright to me. I don't think it's nearly as terrible as some people are making out. The concept was pretty neat and it had great potential as a story. As others have menitoned, having a shitton of famous actors in season 6 unlike in the majority of the rest of teh show could be distracting, but annie murphy and selma kayek were kinda necessary in this case being that they are actresses playing the role for the show. I don't know if I'd venture to rate this anything higher than "good to pretty good" and probably won't ever watch it again but it was ok.
I will say, it was a little distracting that right out of the gates within the first 5 minutes we have 1) an interractial couple with a white woman and indian-ish man 2) a gay secretary that we eventaully see with his gay partner 3) a gay female minority that we eventauly see with her gay partner. In the past, even 5 years ago, I never cared that home invasions on TV only show whities and most commercials with a smart person and a byumbling oaf usually has the smart person as a minority, those things are easy to gloss over and ignore. But FFS TV/movie media in 2023 just continues to beat us over the head wiht this shite. You'd think anyone that isn't gay or a minority is some kind of strange weirdo based on entertainment media.
Loch Henry- Really good. I enjoyed this one a lot (worth pointing out that the main couple is interracial, and one of the least common pairings out there btw). When we get to the reval about the mom that truly surprised me. I was on edge most of the second half of the episode. My only real gripe is what happened to the female lead. She's runnign away for her life and is in a shallow stream, falls, and hits her head on a rock and passes out and dies/drowns. C'mon. For a show that has a history of coming up with incredible twists and turns you're going to do that? It's like the writers said "well we have to get rid of her somehow because we dont' really need her for trhe rest of the plot, let's just have her fall and die". It seemed incredibly lazy. Overall though I really like this one and would probably watch again in the future.
Mazey Day- Dog shite. Complete and total crap. It has nothing to do with black mirror at all in any way. It's not a compelling story. Nothing stands out at all. This is somethign Id' expect from an 8th grade creative writing class. "Uh, um...let's see. You ahve a celebrity that is dryunk and hits someone. Kinda like I know what you did last summer! Let's use that as a start. But um...it's a werewolf! Yeah, yeah, a werewolf! So uh..nobody knows where the celebrity is but some papparrazi track her down and see she's a wolf and it kills them but then the protagonist turns her back". This was insulting to me as a viewer. We know literally nothing about the origin or backstory of this werewolf creatrue. We're given zero reason to care about any character in this story. The police officer shoots the werewolf like 5 times at point blank range which does no damange, then the main character shoots it once wiht the same gun and that works. How did the spiritual guru person know she was a werewolf? The whole story was just shite.
But on topic of that, here's one final insult. I looked at the wiki page to see if it was going ot be universally shat on like it deserves to be, and saw that the "daily telegraph" gave it 5 stars out of 5. I was intrigued because this doens't seem possible or comprehensible in any way so I cliked the link. I think went from being angry to simply laughing. Here's the article lead: "A thrilling snapshot of early Noughties celeb culture. Modelled on the likes of Lindsay Lohan and Mischa Barton and featuring a Muse soundtrack, this is Charlie Brooker firing on all cylinders". Imagine being so out of touch with reality that you'd give this pile of shite 5 stars.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:15 am to WG_Dawg
Beyond the Sea was easily the best episode of the season to me. It was the only one that left me thinking about it after it was over.
The last two are closer to American Horror Story than they are to Black Mirror. Demon 79 was at least entertaining; Mazey Day was really bad. Probably the worst episode of the series.
The last two are closer to American Horror Story than they are to Black Mirror. Demon 79 was at least entertaining; Mazey Day was really bad. Probably the worst episode of the series.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:43 am to dawgdayafternoon
My ranking:
1. Beyond the Sea
2. Loch Henry
3. Demon 79
4. Mazey Day
5. Joan is Awful
Definitely better than last season, not stellar but a step in the right direction.
1. Beyond the Sea
2. Loch Henry
3. Demon 79
4. Mazey Day
5. Joan is Awful
Definitely better than last season, not stellar but a step in the right direction.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 7:12 am to ReedRothchild
Watched beyond the sea last night and loved it. THAT was the first one that really felt like black mirror in a while. The only gripe I have is with the ending. It was so abrupt it just...ended. I don't know if the wrtiers just simply had zero clue how to put a bow on it so they just called it a day or what. It's almsot like there was a countdown clock on the actors' time they'd been paid and the clock hit zeros so they were like "ok, guess this is it!" It wasn't even like some open ended kinda thing that's open to fan interpretation like Inception, this literally just ended.
I GET that from hartnet's point he wanted Jesse to feel what he does. He mentiond earlier that he doesn't know how he feels or what it's like to have nothing and lose everythign you have. So I understand that part of it and why he did waht he did on earth. But then as soon as it's done and jesse finds out and they confront each other back on the ship, we just get an invite to sit and chat? Hey pull up a chair and let's talk this thing out? For an episdoe that was so outstanding for 99% of it the last 1% just really petered out IMO
I GET that from hartnet's point he wanted Jesse to feel what he does. He mentiond earlier that he doesn't know how he feels or what it's like to have nothing and lose everythign you have. So I understand that part of it and why he did waht he did on earth. But then as soon as it's done and jesse finds out and they confront each other back on the ship, we just get an invite to sit and chat? Hey pull up a chair and let's talk this thing out? For an episdoe that was so outstanding for 99% of it the last 1% just really petered out IMO
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:36 am to WG_Dawg
I think Aaron Paul's character was more pissed at himself because he knew Josh Harnett's character was right about damn well everything regarding his relationship. The anger was there initially when Aaron Paul retorted with "my wife is mine. forever" bs which basically put Josh Hartnett's character into frick shite up mode.
By the end... what's done was done and they both had to survive on the station in order to complete the mission. If either one of them dies, they both die.
By the end... what's done was done and they both had to survive on the station in order to complete the mission. If either one of them dies, they both die.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:43 am to southpawcock
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By the end... what's done was done and they both had to survive on the station in order to complete the mission. If either one of them dies, they both die.
That’s what I didn’t like about the ending. I think most wouldn’t look at it that way after just seeing that their colleague had butchered their wife. I think everything is out the window at that point and most would try to kill the guy, no matter the outcome.
Plus, the Aaron Paul character is screwed because he won’t be able to prove it wasn’t him.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:52 pm to wareaglepete
Umm, OK, the Streamberry site exists: streamberry.tv
'Black Mirror' Fans Can Now Star in Their Own Streamberry Series
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Be sure to read the fine print.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:16 pm to WG_Dawg
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will say, it was a little distracting that right out of the gates within the first 5 minutes we have 1) an interractial couple with a white woman and indian-ish man 2) a gay secretary that we eventaully see with his gay partner 3) a gay female minority that we eventauly see with her gay partner.
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worth pointing out that the main couple is interracial, and one of the least common pairings out there btw
Y’all would all enjoy life so much more if you weren’t looking for reasons to be upset.
All those things you mentioned were things I didn’t even notice/think about while watching. Race/sexuality were not even remotely part of the stories/messages.
To normal people, you just see all these character as people because their race/sexuality don’t matter and there’s no message about any of that.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:28 pm to gizmothepug
Loch Henry was awful. Has no place in the Black Mirror series.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:33 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Loch Henry was awful.
Nah, it was a decent mystery with a plot twist.
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Has no place in the Black Mirror series.
This is true. It felt WAY more like a Harlan Coben series than anything in Black Mirror.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:15 am to Tigerfan56
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Y’all would all enjoy life so much more if you weren’t looking for reasons to be upset.
Yeah, just sit back and enjoy it all.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:33 am to Tigerfan56
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Y’all would all enjoy life so much more if you weren’t looking for reasons to be upset.
1) Who's upset? I simply pointed it out then continued to watch the episodes as I intedned
2) Who's "looking"? I'm not seeking these things out. They're presented to me constantly so there's not much looking needing to be done
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All those things you mentioned were things I didn’t even notice/think about while watching
good for you! I think for many people it's impossible NOT to notice at this point. Like it or not, being gay is not the norm. So when we see 2 gay couples and an interractial couple within the first 5 minutes of an episode, that's going to register as being a bit strange.
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Race/sexuality were not even remotely part of the stories/messages.
Yes! You're exactly right! So why go out of their way to include this stuff when it has ZERO bearing on the story? To be woke? To get some kind of DEI credits? For internet back pats?
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To normal people, you just see all these character as people because their race/sexuality don’t matter and there’s no message about any of that.
20 years ago it was a big thing to include people in wheelchairs in media, to be inclusive ya know. Can't offend the handicapped. Then there was a bigger push for minorities so you saw more and more people of color in entertainment which ovbiously is fine, it's not like it's a "problem". Now it's the gays getting shoehorned into everything. Within a couple years it won't just be gay people anymore, it'll be genderless/trans people taking up more and more roles jsut for "inclusion". I don't even want to think abotu what the next trend after that will be in about 10 yeras. The whole point is...none of this shite is about ACTING. Or putting on a good story. Or hiring the peformer that's best for the role. It's about putting more and more and more of these DEI people in things for no reason other than inclusion. You don't see any issues with that? Did you see the oscars are going to start giving out awards only if you have a certain amount of gays or minorities in the cast? Do "normal people" like yourself not think that is extremely odd?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:24 pm to southpawcock
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what's done was done and they both had to survive on the station in order to complete the mission. If either one of them dies, they both die.
This may be true but I'm not really sure how "if one dies they both die" applies. It's not like they are conjoined twins. They could have done a better job of explaining that and setting up the ending.
I liked the episode but another big plothole was why the humans were on the ship while the replicas were back home playing house. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Link into the robots up in space who don't need food, exercise or social interaction and let the humans stay home with other humans. The only explanation for that I could think of is that they wanted to be able to truly say "we put a man on Planet X".
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:39 pm to AUFANATL
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This may be true but I'm not really sure how "if one dies they both die" applies. It's not like they are conjoined twins. They could have done a better job of explaining that and setting up the ending.
Cliff said it to his wife at one point, I think when he brought up him using his replica because he needed Dave back in the game to survive. They could have explained it better, but I guess we just take his word for it.
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