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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:43 am to
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She'll be the strongest Avenger right up there with Thor who both have pretty big gaps compared to the rest of the Avengers


This is correct and consistent with the comics.
Posted by 50_Tiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:45 am to
Both of them are actual magic users which makes me ponder why Scarlet Witch is so weak in the MCU and how Dr. Strange doesn't pwn sht either...
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:48 am to
Thor and Dr Strange can compare, but that’s it. She can perfectly project and manipulate energy.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:50 am to
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Both of them are actual magic users which makes me ponder why Scarlet Witch is so weak in the MCU and how Dr. Strange doesn't pwn sht either...


As with the comics, they are powered as necessary for the story.

One of the complaints about Superman - too powerful.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:51 am to
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Scarlet Witch is so weak in the MCU and how Dr. Strange doesn't pwn sht either


He did some pretty significant stuff in IW.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:55 am to
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Both of them are actual magic users which makes me ponder why Scarlet Witch is so weak in the MCU and how Dr. Strange doesn't pwn sht either...




This is also consistent with the comics.

Pop fiction in general struggles with the scalability of magic. You have to walk that line between deus ex machina and actually providing a real threat to the character.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:55 am to
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It actually made little sense how he couldn't defeat thanos 1 on 1


Yeah, he could have chopped Thanos in half as soon as he arrived on Titan. I’d love for Rick and Morty to do a parody of this scene, and just have Rick drunkenly taunt Thanos and later the Avengers and just use his portal gun to instantly kill him: LINK
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:57 am to
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Unless their time travel heals him somehow. I can’t see how he even puts up a fight.


I think Thanos will be fully healed thanks to the Infinity Gauntlet.
Posted by Burglekutt
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:58 am to
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He did some pretty significant stuff in IW.



I mean, the guy went toe to toe with Thanos for a good bit there while Thanos was wielding 4 stones and he just had one. Also shows how powerful the time stone is and how strong Strange is.

I have no problem with Capt. Marvel coming in hot as one of the strongest as long as her movie does a good job outlining why.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:14 am to
in sheer power the rankings should be in my opinion:

Capt Marvel
Thor (new powers / storm breaker)
Strange
Vision (with stone)
Scarlett Witch
Hulk
Groot
Drax
Spidey
Iron Man
Cheadle Machine
African American Panther
Gamorrah
Nebula
Ant Man
Cap
Bucky
Falcon
Rocketery Coon
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Samuel L Fury
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:15 am to
Did Dr. Strange see Captain Marvel in his "millions of scenarios" meditation thing?
Posted by Burglekutt
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:17 am to
I think that's gotta be a certainty.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:06 am to
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Drax


Now this is a character that the MCU has criminally under powered.

In the comics, Drax the Destroyer was literally created to destroy Thanos (hence The Destroyer moniker).

He could stand toe to toe with Thor or the Hulk and was one of the few creatures Thanos actually feared (with good reason).







This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:11 am to
Dr strange threw the mirror dimension at Thanos and got a nothing burger for his troubles.

That's not how weak is Strange. That's a how fricking strong is the gauntlet.
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:17 am to
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You have to walk that line between deus ex machina and actually providing a real threat to the character.


At least Strange has consequences to his body when he uses powerful magic. In “The Last Days of Magic” arc, Wong has a bunch of monks dedicated to absorbing a lot of the sickness Strange should be experiencing. Strange doesn’t know this as he wouldn’t allow it.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:20 am to
I thought they made it seem like she was plenty powerful. shite she destroyed an Infinity Stone
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:26 am to
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She'll be the strongest Avenger right up there with Thor who both have pretty big gaps compared to the rest of the Avengers

eh I think hulk should be right there with them
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:27 am to
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She will be the strongest by far. Black Panther will be number two.


Support.

#WITHaHERo
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:41 am to
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Now this is a character that the MCU has criminally under powered.


Yup, that's why I put him right under the Hulk and Groot.

Groot and Drax are pound for pound two of the most powerful guys in the Marvel universe. Groot more for his utility and Drax for his sheer strength and durability. I was pissed in the first move when Ronin was whipping him like a donkey and he has been reduced to comic relief. Groot only shows his power here and there too.

Scarlett witch is one of the most powerful people in Marvel too. They make her into a wuss in the movies. She's more powerful than her dad, who is considered one of the most powerful mutants ever and can almost stand toe to toe with the Phoenix. In the MCU she picks up cars and plays tricks on people...
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 10:42 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:43 am to
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Imo hes still the most powerful character in the mcu. It actually made little sense how he couldn't defeat thanos 1 on 1


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