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re: LOST "LAX" S6.E1/2.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 1:58 am to Sandkhan
Posted on 2/5/10 at 1:58 am to Sandkhan
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So, I think that they aren't really alternate realities. We are just seeing what will eventually happen later to the losties on the island.
Bingo!
They get there life as if they plane didnt crash and they get to decide what happens...I just wonder if they eventually remember there lives on the island...seems like Jack will remember eventually or maybe right now we are just seeing jacks side?
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Posted on 2/5/10 at 7:53 am to Iona Fan Man
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A) the Nuke ended everything, they never crash, and the mib/jacob thing is a what would have happened if it all played out?
B) the nuke only moved the losties forward through time to 2007 for mib/jacob battle "so epic" that it sinks island and sends them all (island included) back through time to 2004 so they land in LAX.
C) the nuke split off 2 realities that will converge later. Losties don't crash 815 from Sydney, but "fate" brings them together in Los Angeles and they crash on the island on Flight 316 a few years later (except Hugo's empty seats are filled) and the "reality we are seeing" in 2007 is actually "what has and is happening"?
Wow, there's a LOT going on in that post...
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:18 am to CocomoLSU
Meh, I think people are overthinking it.
I definitely think its an alternate reality created by the nuke in 1977. I think the big question is going to be the date (probably series finale) when the alternate reality and the original reality converge.
I definitely think its an alternate reality created by the nuke in 1977. I think the big question is going to be the date (probably series finale) when the alternate reality and the original reality converge.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:36 am to CocomoLSU
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the nuke split off 2 realities that will converge later. Losties don't crash 815 from Sydney, but "fate" brings them together in Los Angeles and they crash on the island on Flight 316 a few years later (except Hugo's empty seats are filled) and the "reality we are seeing" in 2007 is actually "what has and is happening"?
the only issue with this is that the island is under water on the new flight 815 that doesn't crash. That leads me to believe that is either in a completely different reality that never merges with the 07 losties or it actually happens afterwards.
There could definitely be alternate realities though. Like the previous poster said, the issue is the timing of the convergence.
But, I think that the authors were planning on a complete reset from the beginning. The audience showed great disdain for the possibility of a complete reset. so, how do you overcome that? you let them view the reset without them knowing it is a reset.
I think that we will find out in the series finale that the new flight 815 that doesn't crash is what has happened since they've managed to cause some type of reset. I think that the Losties in 07 on the island have yet to cause the complete reset.
The only issue with that is Juliet saying "it worked." though, that could be part of her mind not working. kind of like her telling James that they "should get coffee sometime."
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:43 am to hashtag
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Juliet saying "it worked."
I think she said that, because she now knows since she's dead and all, that the nuke set off a series of events that produced the desired result, not just instantaneous like they had hoped
I really am jumping both feet in to this notion that we are not watching two simultaneous alternate timelines, but the beginning and the end of Season 6 - here's how it begins, and here's how it ends.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 9:47 am to Uncle Stu
agreed
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:06 am to Uncle Stu
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we are not watching two simultaneous alternate timelines, but the beginning and the end of Season 6 - here's how it begins, and here's how it ends.
That would make sense, and be a pretty cool way to end the show. Odd that they would start that sequence in the season premiere though. But we'll see.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:07 am to tylercsbn9
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Desmond
If I remember right, when he was sitting next to Jack he was reading. Was he reading "Our Mutual Friend"?
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:16 am to steverehage
Question?
Is the cabin on the first island or the second?
If the cabin is on the first island could it be the only plart of that island that Jacob is authorized/allowed and the ash keeps smokey out of it and gives smokey free run of island one?
I will hang up so yall can flame me.
Is the cabin on the first island or the second?
If the cabin is on the first island could it be the only plart of that island that Jacob is authorized/allowed and the ash keeps smokey out of it and gives smokey free run of island one?
I will hang up so yall can flame me.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:19 am to Uncle Stu
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really am jumping both feet in to this notion that we are not watching two simultaneous alternate timelines, but the beginning and the end of Season 6 - here's how it begins, and here's how it ends.
I like that theory.... So people at LAX will eventually find their way back to the island and what we are seeing happening on the island is after their return
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:25 am to Lsut81
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So people at LAX will eventually find their way back to the island and what we are seeing happening on the island is after their return
no
we are watching the present timeline, and a flash forward
the bomb---->starts a series of events (Season 6)------> some cataclysmic event -------->island sinks--------> all the events have been erased as if it never happened to the Survivors------> they land at LAX like they were supposed to
basically, it's everything Jack and Ferriday wanted to happen as a result of the nuke and the pocket, it's just taking the long way around. The detonation didn't reset the timeline, but rather set the participants on a path that leads them to that same outcome.
Juliet - "it worked"
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:27 am to Uncle Stu
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basically, it's everything Jack and Ferriday wanted to happen as a result of the nuke and the pocket, it's just taking the long way around. The detonation didn't reset the timeline, but rather set the participants on a path that leads them to that same outcome.
Oh ok...
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:29 am to Antonio Moss
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Meh, I think people are overthinking it.
I definitely think its an alternate reality created by the nuke in 1977. I think the big question is going to be the date (probably series finale) when the alternate reality and the original reality converge.
I agree. Not a bad theory, but the simplest theory is usually the correct one.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:42 am to Uncle Stu
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basically, it's everything Jack and Ferriday wanted to happen as a result of the nuke and the pocket, it's just taking the long way around. The detonation didn't reset the timeline, but rather set the participants on a path that leads them to that same outcome.
Yes.
I agree with that.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 10:45 am to Uncle Stu
That sounds very reasonable and plausible. Which means, that ain't it. 
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:06 am to Beastwood
I don't know if the one timeline theory as presented in this thread is right, but it's a fairly viable option. I definitely don't think the island sunk in 1977 when the bomb was detonated, then the plane flew over in current time. The island did not appear to have been under water for 30 years.
What if Desmond actually failed to enter the # just like the first time, but instead of crashing the plane, it sank the island.
Desmond on the plane could have just been a Jack hallucination, or maybe Jack also sees dead people.
Then again, if the bomb worked, there would be no reason to push the button.
Just thinking out loud.
What if Desmond actually failed to enter the # just like the first time, but instead of crashing the plane, it sank the island.
Desmond on the plane could have just been a Jack hallucination, or maybe Jack also sees dead people.
Then again, if the bomb worked, there would be no reason to push the button.
Just thinking out loud.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:46 am to BhamTigah
I watched the show off and on for all the seasons, Most everybody here knows alot more than me.
But these writers started this story in the beginning with out an end. (Writing on the fly) So they have to bring it all together by this seasons end.
The flight we see now is what would have happen if no crash. Just a bunch of travelers going from 1 place to the other.But everyone is intrigued by they from the first 5 seasons. The Island/Crash never happened in todays season. (This makes for Very Boring TV.)The flash backs to MIB, JACOB, TEMPLE, ECT...is what would have happened if there was a crash.
But these writers started this story in the beginning with out an end. (Writing on the fly) So they have to bring it all together by this seasons end.
The flight we see now is what would have happen if no crash. Just a bunch of travelers going from 1 place to the other.But everyone is intrigued by they from the first 5 seasons. The Island/Crash never happened in todays season. (This makes for Very Boring TV.)The flash backs to MIB, JACOB, TEMPLE, ECT...is what would have happened if there was a crash.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:50 am to UnoMe
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The flight we see now is what would have happen if no crash. Just a bunch of travelers going from 1 place to the other.But everyone is intrigued by they from the first 5 seasons. The Island/Crash never happened in todays season. (This makes for Very Boring TV.)The flash backs to MIB, JACOB, TEMPLE, ECT...is what would have happened if there was a crash.
dude, no way
and frick you if you're correct, I'll burn ABC to the God Damn ground
Posted on 2/5/10 at 11:59 am to Uncle Stu
If what we see in the "no crash" timeline is really the end, that would be kind of boring IMO. I recall the producers saying something along the lines of season 6 will be linear: no more flashbacks, forwards. Technically with the "alternative realities", this is true.
Further, both Juliet and Charlotte were acting as if they were in another existence right before they died (recall they both died immediately after a "flash"). It wasn't until Juliet said "it worked" that we get the first clue that she may have slipped into the other reality to confirm this theory.
I think the writers ARE giving us answers, it's just that we are so used to over thinking everything we can't see the forest for the trees now.
Further, both Juliet and Charlotte were acting as if they were in another existence right before they died (recall they both died immediately after a "flash"). It wasn't until Juliet said "it worked" that we get the first clue that she may have slipped into the other reality to confirm this theory.
I think the writers ARE giving us answers, it's just that we are so used to over thinking everything we can't see the forest for the trees now.
This post was edited on 2/5/10 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:04 pm to UnoMe
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The flight we see now is what would have happen if no crash. Just a bunch of travelers going from 1 place to the other.But everyone is intrigued by they from the first 5 seasons. The Island/Crash never happened in todays season. (This makes for Very Boring TV.)The flash backs to MIB, JACOB, TEMPLE, ECT...is what would have happened if there was a crash.
Nah, producers said they wouldn't hoe out with a scenario like that.... I think they would be murdered if they did.
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