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Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Deathrider
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:13 am to
Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful Jedi and it's not even close. Only his arrogance did him in.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:15 am to
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I'm thinking that we could have done a better job with the first three episodes, but then Lucas wouldn't have been able to give us the wonderful gift known as Jar-Jar.


Agreed. I've got some good ideas for Episodes 2 and 3 as well, with Anakin being kicked out of the Jedi Order at the end of the second one due to his relationship with Padme (or whoever the hell it would be in our iteration), leaving the stage set for the 3rd one where he takes some vengance on the Jedi Order. All Palpatine would really need to do is slightly provoke Anakin into giving into his impulsive and dark nature and he himself would unknowingly become a Sith in the process and only realize it once its far too late. Anakin shouldn't be blackmailed into joining the Dark Side like he was in RotS, but should very much be seduced by the Dark Side and enjoy the power that it gives to him.
This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 9:18 am
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15396 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:18 am to
I'm down for a reboot of the prequels but they have to be a gritty reboot because I felt it was pretty kiddy until episode III
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:30 am to
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Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful Jedi

In a vacuum, I agree with him having the greatest abilities. Him succumbing to the dark side kind of belittles his power, though.

I would have liked to see Windu and Anakin battle it out at their peaks.
This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 9:31 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60612 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:36 am to
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Including Sith.


Theoretically: Anakin by far.
Book Wise: Would have been Anakin Solo, but he died and Jacen Solo became theoretically unstoppable. (He only died because his name wasn't Luke ie "Lucas"

Luke Skywalker is nothing more than a money making plot device. He is a loser.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 9:50 am to
I'm letting my inner-geek out with this post. I think Obi-Wan was the most complete Jedi that we see on film. However, I don't think he was the best Jedi/Sith with a lightsaber. Dooku beat him twice head to head. Obi-Wan was the most well-rounded of the Jedi that we see on film. But of course, Yoda is past his prime physically. However, I get the idea that Dooku must have been a pretty strong Jedi in his prime.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35873 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 11:23 am to
Darth Vader was the baddest MFer ever.

Speaking of Yoda and Dooku and th eawfulness of the prequels...whay didn't any of the 3 transports just take out his spaceship? Why didn't Yoda just hurl one of those rocks at the ship once Dooku started bringing down the roof?
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 11:30 am to
Leai and Han Solo's twin boys
Posted by the smoke monster
USA USA USA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 11:36 am to
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Leai and Han Solo's twin boys


They from the books or something?

I thought I knew Star Wars, but obviously Im still just a padawan compared to yall
This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 11:37 am
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18672 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:09 pm to
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Leai and Han Solo's twin boys


They from the books or something?



Actually.. it's their Twins, a boy AND a girl.. and yes they are in the book.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60612 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:18 pm to
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Actually.. it's their Twins, a boy AND a girl.. and yes they are in the book.


BOOK SPOILERS





Yeah. Jacen, the son, is presented as unstoppable, able to flow walk through time and crush people minds just by thinking about it. He had Luke beaten when they fought in Legacy (as the fight was ACTUALLY depicted, not later interpreted by the next author). Ben had to stab Jacen in the back to save Luke's life.

Ultimately, he basically allowed his twin sister to kill him as he had realized the error of his ways and turned back to the light side just before his death.
This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 12:19 pm
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34494 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:20 pm to
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, a boy AND a girl
oops, brain fart
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:30 pm to
The Emperor and then Yoda
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60612 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:36 pm to
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The Emperor and then Yoda


Interestingly enough (including the books) Lucas "okayed" the idea that the Emperor rescued a young free Anakin to force him into a form of slavery in the Vader Suit. The suit was designed in such a way that it became necessary for Anakin's survival when it wasn't ACTUALLY needed.

In this way, by Lucas' estimation, Anakin was held to about 80% of the Emperor's power due to the limitations of the suit. It's main drawback was that he was susceptible to force lightning meaning the Emperor could kill him at anytime. That's what makes the ending of Jedi so powerful.

Vader, forced into a form a slavery again, the very thing he despised as a child, willingly confronted the one thing that would surely kill him to save his son.

This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 12:37 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:41 pm to
Why wouldn't Vader just kill himself then. Not as if it's really worth living.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60612 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Why wouldn't Vader just kill himself then. Not as if it's really worth living.


Keep in mind this was added later. But the explanation is that his WHOLE motivation was hatred for the emperor and the fact that he wanted to kill him and rule in vengeance (aka the Dark Side consumed him). In other words, Vader came to recognize what the Emperor had done to him

That's why they both wanted to turn Luke to the Dark Side. The underlying plot was that they were competing over Luke. To the Emperor, Vader would be obsolete and the threat of his existence would be removed. To Vader, he could train Luke and use Luke to kill the Emperor and they could rule together as father and son.

This post was edited on 6/30/11 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
107746 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 12:57 pm to
Hmmmm. I got to go with Darth Halitosis. No one could stand across from him and live. I know its going way back in the jedi annals of hte EU, but it tis' basically accepted fact among the true experts (T-bone stars wars universe posters)
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6643 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 1:00 pm to
has a Wookie ever wielded the force? Cuz if so, I vote that guy.

Most Powerful: I go with Vader/Anakin
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
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107746 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 1:00 pm to
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Anakin was held to about 80% of the Emperor's power due to the limitations of the suit


Most insiders will argue its actually about 68% of the Emperor's power, but I learned on Supershadow.com that it was Lucas wish for it to be more like 73%.

There are some early rough drafts of Lucas from his teen years which list all of the jedi/sith and their midiclorian counts, Those can also be found on super shadow.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60612 posts
Posted on 6/30/11 at 1:19 pm to
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There are some early rough drafts of Lucas from his teen years which list all of the jedi/sith and their midiclorian counts, Those can also be found on super shadow.


Interesting. Link?
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