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re: Next Classic Film
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:18 am to abellsujr
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:18 am to abellsujr
the filming techniques they developed were the most amazing. Creating the ability to carry a camera and walk it through a computer animated world while the scene is playing, and being able to shoot it from every possible angle just by walking to that spot with the camera is incredible. The behind the scenes videos on the technical side from Avatar are astounding.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:23 am to VaBamaMan
I liked the great detail out of in the facial expressions they got from the actors. All movies with CGI characters who are human like use the same method today.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:24 am to VaBamaMan
Little guy by the name of Gollum was around long before Avatar.
I don't discount the great 3-D and motion capture however, he just built on technology already around, thus not groundbreaking. Sorry, Avatar may be remembered as the best use of this technology but it wasn't close to the first, thus NOT Groundbreaking.
Also doesn't help that the plot of the movie was horrible.
Horrible plot plus extending the use of existing technology doesn't make it a classic. Nope.
I don't discount the great 3-D and motion capture however, he just built on technology already around, thus not groundbreaking. Sorry, Avatar may be remembered as the best use of this technology but it wasn't close to the first, thus NOT Groundbreaking.
Also doesn't help that the plot of the movie was horrible.
Horrible plot plus extending the use of existing technology doesn't make it a classic. Nope.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:36 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:25 am to TigerMyth36
Avatar??? 
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:32 am to DoctorKnow
I have not seen Avatar since it was in theaters. To me, a classic movie is one that you can rewatch over and over. Avatar does not have that rewatchable aspect IMO.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:35 am to TigerMyth36
quote:Gollum started it, but Avatar perfected it.
Little guy by the name of Gollum was around long before Avatar.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:37 am to abellsujr
bullshite. Gollum is still equally as good as any of those blue giants.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:39 am to TigerMyth36
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:44 am to DoctorKnow
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I think we may be missing the question of the post. What future films will make a global impact and will be talked about for generations to come?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:51 am to Kingwood Tiger
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:56 am to TigerMyth36
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Little guy by the name of Gollum was around long before Avatar.
For the capturing of the video yes. The techniques for shooting after capture was where the innovation was. They would play a digitally created scene while Cameron would walk around a room holding a camera showing him the scene from where he would be if it were real and he would record the scene from any angle he wanted.
Ftr WETA did all the polishing for Avatar. Same with LOTR. Actually they did all of the LOTR not just perfecting the look.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:02 pm to VaBamaMan
And I haven't argued that Cameron didn't improve technique, but some here are equating improving technology with being groundbreaking. It isn't. Not to mention NOBODY is using Cameron's tech.
Using motion capture or using 3-D or even shooting in 3-D isn't new. Some here are just stating because someone shot in 3-D or used motion capture somehow Avatar caused this, and that is simply not true.
The unfortunate fact is that MOST studios will continue to retrofit crap 3-D instead of pushing boundaries because it is much cheaper and to this point the masses have no problem with paying the higher price for crap.
Using motion capture or using 3-D or even shooting in 3-D isn't new. Some here are just stating because someone shot in 3-D or used motion capture somehow Avatar caused this, and that is simply not true.
The unfortunate fact is that MOST studios will continue to retrofit crap 3-D instead of pushing boundaries because it is much cheaper and to this point the masses have no problem with paying the higher price for crap.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:51 pm to DoctorKnow
I've still never seen Avatar!
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:24 pm to constant cough
quote:For what it is worth, I do think it was worth a watch at the theater. The 3-D was clearly the best to date. Just a shame the plot was so hamfisted. With a more complex story with better character development, the movie could and should have been much better.
I've still never seen Avatar!
Funny that Cameron argues 3-D can and should be used better while at the same time he ignored character development in Avatar.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:47 pm to TigerMyth36
You have to remember that a lot of the classic films we admire today weren't received very well at the time of its original release. I think many of the "classics" from this era are films that we're completely ignoring at the moment.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:57 pm to CocomoLSU
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technically (as in actual, technical moviemaking) it will be looked upon with some improtance historically IMO.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:59 pm to Kafka
Is that the highest grossing movie of all time?
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:00 pm to abellsujr
quote:what's that got to do with "technical moviemaking"?
Is that the highest grossing movie of all time
Posted on 6/20/14 at 2:03 pm to Kafka
Nothing, but people will remember the highest grossing movie of all time. Both what was good, and bad about it.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:01 pm to DoctorKnow
Voltron, whenever it gets made, will be instant classic
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