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Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:07 pm to
I can't even think of any movies I've seen the past 10 yrs that will be regarded as classic 50 yrs from now.

12 yrs a slave?
Lincoln?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41237 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Lincoln?

Now I know you are a troll. I love period piece movies but Lincoln was just plain boring.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41237 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 3:23 pm to
The correct answer to the question is Crash.

In the nearly completely PC future, Crash will spawn a religion and all humanity will be forced to watch Crash once a day or face summary re-education.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83848 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:10 pm to
I never even saw Lincoln, just trying to think of candidates for classic status.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:12 pm to
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It seems the latest to have such impact on the world was James Cameron's Avatar. What is the next powerful movie in the works?


Wow. This has got to be a troll.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:15 pm to
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I don't think it's had it's impact quite yet. Give it some time and it'll take it's toll.

It's had 5 years. What are filmmakers waiting for?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:18 pm to
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I think we may be missing the question of the post. What future films will make a global impact and will be talked about for generations to come?


I doubt Avatar will be all that remembered 50 years from now. It's all style and no substance that is not going to hold up over time, or even really to this day.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:27 pm to
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bullshite. Gollum is still equally as good as any of those blue giants.


Better actually. I can still vividly remember Gollum's facial expressions, and just how they gloriously differentiate Smeagol from Gollum. Can't really recall an iconic facial expression from made by any of the Navi.

Plus it doesn't hurt that Gollum would probably make the Top 100 film characters of all time. Gollum was a character first and a digital creation second.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38453 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:29 pm to
Gollum had a funny face. It was also the first time we had seen a CGI character with that much facial expression. The same company did Avatar and Gollum, WETA.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Gollum had a funny face. It was also the first time we had seen a CGI character with that much facial expression. The same company did Avatar and Gollum, WETA.


It's more than that, he could instantly change that face and have you know whether Gollum or Smeagol is the one in the scene. Granted, a large part of this is due to Andy Serkis, who is a much better actor than any of the Navi in Avatar, and should have been nominated for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38453 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:41 pm to
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should have been nominated for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
He really should have. He will always be remembered as the actor who paved the way for motion caption acting. Some of the digital artist complained about all of the credit he got for Gollum. They said they were more responsible for the performance in the digital creation. The things I remember most about Gollum are the voice and the facial expressions. Those were Andy's doing for the most part. Weta has gotten all kinds of awards for CGI. Andy should have gotten one for acting, too.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38161 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:24 am to
The first computer generated character appeared in Young Sherlock Holmes.

Nobody gives a shite about Young Sherlock Holmes.

Avatar was all hype and sizzle and zero steak. It's a movie that has to be seen in a theater and with 3D glasses. By the time 3D TV is commonplace, we'll have much better 3D films to watch. Nobody is going to declare Avatar a classic just because it had the best 3D for a six month span.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38453 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:43 am to
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The first computer generated character appeared in Young Sherlock Holmes.

Nobody gives a shite about Young Sherlock Holmes.

Avatar was all hype and sizzle and zero steak. It's a movie that has to be seen in a theater and with 3D glasses. By the time 3D TV is commonplace, we'll have much better 3D films to watch. Nobody is going to declare Avatar a classic just because it had the best 3D for a six month span.
The difference here is that Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time. Young Sherlock Holmes was not. People on this board don't like a lot of movies that are liked with critics and the general public. I personally had a lot of issues with Avatar, but I believe it will be remembered. Especially because of the sequels that are going to follow. Will it be a classic, not IMO. But after the sequels are finished, It will be remembered. There's a difference between "being remembered" and a "classic".
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 3:01 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38567 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 6:54 am to
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People on this board don't like a lot of movies that are liked with critics and the general public.




Love it when people disagree and suddenly it's this board as a whole, and then we're marginalized.

Fact: This is one of the most balanced boards discussing movies I have ever seen. There's she wise, some not so wise, suite contrarians, some pollyannas, etc.

The thing about this board is that even widely praised films have some critics, and that's not bad thing. Some people think avengers sucked. Some think TDK has problems. Lincoln is boring. Wes Anderson is the worst film maker of all time. No wait according to some he's one of the best. TDK is a top 20 film all time. And so forth.

Just because some people don't like Avatar doesn't mean the board doesn't like things because they are popular.

This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 6:55 am
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:19 am to
I've never really seen much of Avatar and I have a question for those bashing the plot:

Is the criticism primarily that the plot is not engaging and entertaining or primarily based on it's political stance or alleged political stance?

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31161 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:30 am to
Special effects doesn't make a great, classic movie. It has to have everything. Story, writing, acting, visually stunning. Avatar was a popcorn movie. Pretty, but not much else.

My idea of a classic is a movie you can watch 50 times through the years and it never lose appeal. My definition may be completely wrong though.

Not necessarily my picks for "classic", but these movies bring more than just effects on the screen. They bring everything that makes a movie great. Opinions will differ.

First and foremost, I will say Toy Story should be included in the list of recent classics. It brought animated movies to the forefront with great voiceovers and animation and story, and opened the way for countless new ones.

Others:
American Beauty
Pulp Fiction
Castaway
The Pianist





This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95153 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:31 am to
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It's more trying to showcase the advances and impact it made on filmography today.


CGI is not cinematography - it is a substitute for it (and for imagination, in many places.) 3D CGI isn't any more cinematography than 2D CGI - just has more depth of field.

Cinematography is using a film or digital camera to record events that exist in the real world. CGI is just an attempt at realistic or ultra-realistic animation.

It is a subtle difference, but an important one.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 7:41 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31161 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:36 am to
Are you confusing filmography with cinematography?

This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 7:46 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95153 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:40 am to
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Are you confusing filmography with cinematography?


Yeah I was just copying his word. You're correct, of course. A filmography is a list or collection.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:25 am to
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My idea of a classic is a movie you can watch 50 times through the years and it never lose appeal.

So ... Shawshank then.
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