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Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 7:46 pm to
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It still doesn't matter. As intentionally obnoxious as Gyno and LE are being, they have a good point. There is already a comic discussion thread for people to discuss those and the spoilers they contain.



Im not even trying to be obnoxious though.

I am not a doctor or zombie historian. How is it "obvious to everyone" that Andrea isnt infected?

I've seen every episode. Maybe I missed something.

So there isnt a CDC in the comics? I am supposed to know that there isnt and apply that to LSUZombie's post?


I'll go ahead and admit I don't care anything about Zombies. I havent before this show, and I really wont after. I dont know how their brain works, I dont if they can run or swim or climb ladders, etc. It looks like a cool show because I like thrillers like this. I saw night of the living dead once, and i liked it. I really didnt know there was a cult following like there is.


And FWIW, i try and skip over all of LSUZombie's post whether he is posting spoilers or not, or even commenting on the thread. It's stupid to assume that everyone has his "zombie knowledge" and knows how they can infect people and such.

Like gyno said, he seems quick to inject his thoughts about the show, and as someone who HAS NEVER READ the comics, I dont know what to take as a spoiler or not, so i just assume try and skip over his posts.

(not directed at you Coke..just generally speaking here)
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 8:16 pm to
Not to interrupt everyone butthurtedness but on a lighter note I just had a Magic Negro sighting on Human Target where he has an occasional role as Baptist the assassin.

Also, Theoreticaltiger, DudeAbides is correct West Coast is our of the question. They would have a hard enough time reaching the east coast with questionable fuel supplies and a piece of crap Winnebago that over heats when you put it on the road.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:03 pm to
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I am not a doctor or zombie historian. How is it "obvious to everyone" that Andrea isnt infected?


Because he would have said something if she was. His plan was to die a quick, painless death in the explosion, not to be ripped apart by a zombie. He even said that he isn't sure how long it takes for someone to become a zombie: could be 30 minutes, could be 8 hours. Why would he risk that? also add to the fact that she shows no signs of being infected....

and then at the end, when everyone is leaving, he leans over and tells rick, "oh btw she is infected so good luck, lol"? That doesn't make sense.

should she be infected? sure. she blasted her sister in the head inches away from her face. zombie blood should have gotten in her mouth or something. but somehow, through the magic of tv, it didn't.

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And FWIW, i try and skip over all of LSUZombie's post whether he is posting spoilers or not, or even commenting on the thread. It's stupid to assume that everyone has his "zombie knowledge" and knows how they can infect people and such


I love how your internet persona hates mine so much. its funny.

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Like gyno said, he seems quick to inject his thoughts about the show, and as someone who HAS NEVER READ the comics, I dont know what to take as a spoiler or not, so i just assume try and skip over his posts.

i know right? how dare i try to join in on the conversation. and just to let you know, i will never post a blatant spoiler because i want everyone to enjoy the show and be suprised. mainly because i am being suprised as well since the show differs greatly from the comic.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:10 pm to
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LSUZombie


I for one appreciate your contributions to this thread and zombieizm in general.

I've been out of pocket for the past few days and only got to see the first 15 mins or so of the finale. Glad they kind of answered the question I had about Shane and how he handled leaving Rick. Totally opposite of what I thought he did, and I start liking him again only to see him pull another dick move(My cousin told me, but I haven't seen it myself yet). fricking Spoilerer.

anyway that's all I got for now. But does anyone else think that Andrea kind of favors Amy Smart?



It's been killing me all season thinking why she looked so familiar and I finally put my finger on it.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:14 pm to
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Michael J Cocks




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Glad they kind of answered the question I had about Shane and how he handled leaving Rick.

I loved this scene. In the comics they never explain what really went down. This scene answered all the questions I had and I thought it was terrific

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But does anyone else think that Andrea kind of favors Amy Smart?

Based on that picture you posted, she kind of does. I'd hit both FWIW
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:38 pm to
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Because he would have said something if she was. His plan was to die a quick, painless death in the explosion, not to be ripped apart by a zombie. He even said that he isn't sure how long it takes for someone to become a zombie: could be 30 minutes, could be 8 hours. Why would he risk that? also add to the fact that she shows no signs of being infected....



well it didnt make sense to me anyway that he tested them all...WHEN...

in his mind that the place would explode and they would all die anyway.

The time lapse isnt clear between episodes...seems like 1 night at the most.

I never heard him say he didnt know how long it took to become a zombie. I figured as a scientist he would know. Maybe he thought there was enough time that he thought the place would blow before she had time to turn, meaning there would be no reason to kill her. Maybe she isnt fully infected by just being breathed on, and that her blood test threw up some read flag to him with some other type of strand or disease.

Then when they pleaded to him to let them out, he figured he would tell the cop


frick, i dont know.

HIs wife may be pregnant, but he sure didnt give much of a facial expression to indicate any emotions. shite, most would figure that the cop would probably know his wife was pregnant, even given the conditions. Would he really have to tell her?

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I love how your internet persona hates mine so much. its funny.



I don't care about your persona. I dont even know what that means. Not everyone grew up studying zombie traits. The way you post, you assume that. Sorry I thought Andrea may have been infected. How silly of me. The way you responded sure made it sound like you knew already. And if you are "being surprised with us", no need to belittle me for what I think may be happening.





Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:47 pm to
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well it didnt make sense to me anyway that he tested them all...WHEN...in his mind that the place would explode and they would all die anyway.


It goes back to the way he wanted to die. he tested them to make sure no one would turn over night and then rip his throat out. atleast thats what makes sense to me.

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I never heard him say he didnt know how long it took to become a zombie. I figured as a scientist he would know. Maybe he thought there was enough time that he thought the place would blow before she had time to turn, meaning there would be no reason to kill her.

In the scene where he is showing pictures of the brai nscan, he says he isn't sure how long the process takes. somewhere between 30 minutes and 8 hours is what i think he said. so it varies from person to person.

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Not everyone grew up studying zombie traits. The way you post, you assume that

the way i post is to talk about zombies. I have watched numerous zombie movies, read tons of books, even had stories published. I love zombies. Its my favorite thing. I have no clue why, I just do. I love talking about them and i love that this thread was started and has been so successful.

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And if you are "being surprised with us", no need to belittle me for what I think may be happening.

it hard for me because i have the insight of the comics. I see people posting things and they are way off base, so my first reaction is to correct them. I need to remind myself that I can't because I could ruin the series for those who haven't read them.

but you are right, there is no need to belittle anyone for what they think may be happening.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 12/8/10 at 10:53 pm to
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but you are right, there is no need to belittle anyone for what they think may be happening.


like this dude....

Posted by Michael T. Tiger
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 12:07 am to
So, anyone else think the doctor told Rick his wife is preggers? Anyone think the baby is Shane's? Can think of anything else the doctor would have to tell him after blood was drawn that would work for the show.
Posted by Beachtiger
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 4:59 am to
MJC good to see you back.

Zombie- Keep doing what you are doing. I like your insight.

I liked the brain scan scene. Watching it develop then reanimation then termination.
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 5:13 am
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 7:25 am to
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Can think of anything else the doctor would have to tell him after blood was drawn that would work for the show.


There are a few ideas a few pages back worth taking a look at.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 7:35 am to
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it hard for me because i have the insight of the comics. I see people posting things and they are way off base, so my first reaction is to correct them. I need to remind myself that I can't because I could ruin the series for those who haven't read them.

This is the key IMO. And that's why I tried to take a hard stance on comic shite being posted in this thread. I wasn't trying to pick on CajunRevolution, I was just trying to keep the show discussion and the comic discussion separate from each other, because one inherently can spoil the other very easily. It's just a potentially dangerous path to tread down for people who haven't read the comics (of which there are a lot in this thread). I, for one, don't ever plan on reading the comics, and not just because I'm not a comic/graphic novel fan...but also because I love the show and don't want anything spoiled. Kinda along the same lines as how people who read the book of something and then watch the movie are almost always disappointed in the movie.
Posted by Beachtiger
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 7:56 am to
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CocomoLSU


Jesus Mary and Joesph man!
Enough on the spoiler shite. Everyone appreciate your point. LSU Zombie has apologized and will refrain.

So where do you think the group goes from here?
Shane- Ft.Benning idea?
Hook up with the mexicans in B-ham?
Deeper into the mountains?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 8:10 am to
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LSU Zombie has apologized and will refrain.

FYI I was never mad at Zombie at all.
quote:

So where do you think the group goes from here?
Shane- Ft.Benning idea?
Hook up with the mexicans in B-ham?
Deeper into the mountains?

I think a military base could work, provided there is access to food/water. Could also try to head for the coast. Hopefully the mexicans that rolled out won't be seen again, but who knows. I wonder if the people they ran into at that hospital-type place will show up again.

If they head to the coast, do they go east to the Atlantic or south to the Gulf..?
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:00 am to
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Hopefully the mexicans that rolled out won't be seen again, but who knows.


I bet we see them again and they are zombies. It will be a forcefully awkward situation and interesting to see how the group handles having to kill them(just a theory).


SPOILERS........






as far as the whisper, I don't think it was anything having to do with Ricks wife being pregnant or Shane trying to rape her, simply because I think he would have went apeshit and shot Shane in the face and then carried on with the escape. I'm thinking it was something to do with either another place to go(like if there is another safe/decent place this would be it) or someone in the group is infected but in a different way than what we've seen.

All I know is this story can go a million different ways next season and I can't wait.

And whoever said the black chick(Jackie I guess her name is) offing herself didn't make sense, I totally agree. I mean she was all about survival and just gives up like that??? Really? I could see Andrea doing it, but she really had no excuse. Also, was T-Dog and her married or dating or something? She seemed to be kind of intimate the way she said goodbye to him and called him "baby", but then again I would think he'd be a little more compassionate and try a little harder to talk her out of it than to just up and bail arse like "OK, well C-ya".

and Beach it's good to be back, I was only gone for like 5 days but it felt like an eternity with really no time to see any TV or check the intrawebz. I may be fricked afterall once this Zombie Apocalypse hits. It's gonna take some getting used to not being able to know whats going on in the world. But I guess at that point it's not like I'll care much about my fantasy league or what happened on the walking dead show/thread. lolz.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:07 am to
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Also, was T-Dog and her married or dating or something? She seemed to be kind of intimate the way she said goodbye to him and called him "baby", but then again I would think he'd be a little more compassionate and try a little harder to talk her out of it than to just up and bail arse like "OK, well C-ya".

Mother/sister figure maybe?
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:22 am to
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Mother/sister figure maybe?



Could be. That's what my wife said. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed anything before that...but I honestly don't even remember them interacting in any previous episodes before that scene so it makes it less likely they were romantically involved.
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:43 am to
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It goes back to the way he wanted to die. he tested them to make sure no one would turn over night and then rip his throat out. at least that's what makes sense to me.


This is one of the thoughts that crossed my mind, as well as some people do things just to exercise control over others or to establish some sort of hierarchy of leadership. Maybe he just wanted to be a dick. In the big picture it just doesn't matter.

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Micheal J Cocks

I believe you posted about Jakie deciding to die in the CDC after showing the survival instincts earlier in the series. I think it is similar to the way the CDC guy wanted to go out. Not wanting to be eaten alive with a strong possibility of becoming a zombie with what ever uneaten part of you is left. Also she may want to commit suicide but doesn't have the courage to pull the trigger? In the early episodes she had some hope that the CDC was working on a cure and had the fear of a horrible death. Now seeing the CDC has given her no hope and maybe with no family remaining this gives her an easy and painless way to die, and go out on her terms not as zombie food.

Also I I think the two black characters are unrelated and in a none relationship. Just happen to be two black survivors. Jackie appeared to be much older than him and it seemed pretty easy for him to leave her. JMO
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 9:47 am
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:51 am to
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In the early episodes she had some hope that the CDC was working on a cure and had the fear of a horrible death. Now seeing the CDC has given her no hope and maybe with no family remaining this gives her an easy and painless way to die, and go out on her terms not as zombie food.


Yeah that's a good point. I guess if her only hope was hinging on the CDC I could see why she'd go out that way. Just kind of seems that once she saw Andrea and Dale bail arse, she would have changed her mind and followed. But again, if she'd already crossed that line in her head, I guess there was no turning back.

and since you brought it back up...

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It goes back to the way he wanted to die. he tested them to make sure no one would turn over night and then rip his throat out. at least that's what makes sense to me.


I didn't address it but I was very troubled by the whole aspect of this. I guess I just dismissed it as he was too human and sympathetic to watch them die on his doorstep so he had to let them in. But you'd think the mother fricker would have been less vague about what they got themselves into. And he possibly might have thought this was one last chance at finding a cure or an advancement in what he already knew, and was so devoured by the disappointment he was just like "frick these people!"
This post was edited on 12/9/10 at 9:59 am
Posted by Beachtiger
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:18 am to
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Jackie
It's Jacqui.

quote:

try a little harder to talk her out of it than to just up and bail arse like "OK, well C-ya".


T-dog was cold "Aww-no come on with. OK later bitch."

I was thinking of the next stop for the group. Considering 2 lawmen are in the group, you would figure the would know locations for National guard armories. Being sheriff deputies they should have rudimentary emergency response training(location of resources). Fuel food and ammo.


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