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Question for Fretshack, or anyone who has experience with set neck guitars..
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:53 am
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:53 am
This little Les Paul jr. kit guitar is the only set neck guitar I have ever messed with, I really like this guitar.
It's a great player and I want to keep it that way, The thing is, I find myself wondering if I did a good enough job gluing the neck in.( Also I couldn't get any Titebond glue in town and I used Gorilla wood glue), there I admit it.
I'm wondering If I should drill and put a neckplate on for added assurance? I want to try and keep it exactly like it is.
It's just a kit and isn't really worth anything, so it's not like I'm messing up value.
I have a cool neckplate off of an old Japanese guitar that is shaped like a tombstone.
Is there a problem that could show up that I haven't considered?
I would step up the drill sizes gradually. Probably 3 drill sizes.
It's a great player and I want to keep it that way, The thing is, I find myself wondering if I did a good enough job gluing the neck in.( Also I couldn't get any Titebond glue in town and I used Gorilla wood glue), there I admit it.
I'm wondering If I should drill and put a neckplate on for added assurance? I want to try and keep it exactly like it is.
It's just a kit and isn't really worth anything, so it's not like I'm messing up value.
I have a cool neckplate off of an old Japanese guitar that is shaped like a tombstone.
Is there a problem that could show up that I haven't considered?
I would step up the drill sizes gradually. Probably 3 drill sizes.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 7:13 pm
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:32 pm to auggie
It's really kinda hard to tell without physically examining myself
Don't go chasing waterfalls..
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to..
I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all,
But I think you're moving too fast.
quote:all I own, not that I wouldn't own others. It's just how it's worked out.
is the only set neck guitar I have ever messed with
quote:
I find myself wondering if I did a good enough job gluing the neck in.( Also I couldn't get any Titebond glue in town and I used Gorilla Glue), there I admit it.
I'm wondering If I should drill and put a neckplate on for added assurance? I want to try and keep it exactly like it is.
It's just a kit and isn't really worth anything, so it's not like I'm messing up value.
Don't go chasing waterfalls..
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to..
I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all,
But I think you're moving too fast.
quote:save it for a cooler guitar
I have a cool neckplate off of an old Japanese guitar that is shaped like a tombstone.
quote:always
Is there a problem that could show up that I haven't considered?
Posted on 4/2/23 at 6:27 pm to auggie
If you can set up the guitar adequately - enough range up and down with the tailpiece - you got the neck angle in relation to the body right. Juniors typically like to see a pitch of three to five degrees.
If a mortice and tenon neck is cut properly, you need a lot less glue than you would think.
Don't install a bolt-on plate. Just don't.
If a mortice and tenon neck is cut properly, you need a lot less glue than you would think.
Don't install a bolt-on plate. Just don't.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:11 pm to TheFretShack
It turned out really well on the set up. The action is as slick as I could ask for. It would be hard to find another one better, and probably pretty expensive.
I just have never had much luck with glue.
Thanx for the response.
Clint too.
I just have never had much luck with glue.
Thanx for the response.
Clint too.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:56 pm to auggie
quote:
Thanx for the response.
Clint too.
I offered absolutely no help
But for small projects, I'd save searches on ebay and Reverb of guitar (and bass) husks.
For example
I wouldn't mind getting that and throwing a could of fret's pickups (that I'm gonna make an order for soon, haven't had any days off with my farm and the time difference doesn't help
) in. Found instruments in the past that I've got for cheap and put some work in, then traded for better things.
I'd probably snatch that guitar up right now, but I dont really like the headstock
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 8:15 pm to SEClint
quote:
I'd probably snatch that guitar right now if I liked the headstock
I don't know, that headstock is better than some others to me. Made in Japan Washburn.. Probably all mahogany?
Posted on 4/2/23 at 8:25 pm to auggie
quote:Im weird about stuff, i only buy blue thick american glass pipes to smoke from. If i dont like the headstock its bad luck. I have my superstitions.
I don't know, that headstock is better than some others to me.
quote:They list it as maple
Probably all mahogany?
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 8:38 pm to SEClint
quote:
They list it as maple
Hmm.. I like the way it looks. Might be a bit expensive for all the right hardware for it though?
Posted on 4/2/23 at 8:55 pm to auggie
It's going to need some work, but I look at it and see a touring guitar/backup FR situation.
Those I usually limit myself to about $1,200, and I feel like I could do everything I wanted for less than $900
Those I usually limit myself to about $1,200, and I feel like I could do everything I wanted for less than $900
Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:07 pm to SEClint
What I like about that design, that headstock shape matches the shape of the body horn.
A straight front view on a horizontal angle probably looks pretty good.
A straight front view on a horizontal angle probably looks pretty good.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:48 am to auggie
quote:
Also I couldn't get any Titebond glue in town and I used Gorilla wood glue
As a woodworker, I have a bit of insight. As far as guitar knowledge, I've got enough understanding to at least know what you are talking about
. I think Fretshack said it best, glue is to hold the tenon in the mortise. The mortise and tenon are designed to take the load if they are fit right. When it comes to Titebond vs. Gorilla, I use Titebond, but really only because I like Titebond III (waterproof applications). As long as you are comparing PVA glues (typical wood glue) then you aren't going to have issues with either brand. I would not worry at all.
I will say, I find Titebond to be the easiest brand to find. It's at any lowes, home depot, ace hardware, etc..
Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:20 am to Jon A thon
quote:
I will say, I find Titebond to be the easiest brand to find. It's at any lowes, home depot, ace hardware, etc..
I live about 35 miles from any of those, we just have a local hardware store.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:02 am to Jon A thon
DO NOT use a waterproof glue on ANY part of ANY guitar EVER.
Every bond on a guitar has to be able to be compromised if need be. Necks have to be reset over time. Acoustic bridges crack and have to be removed and replaced. Braces, ribs and kerflings come loose and residues have to be removed (from inside an acoustic box that's hard to fit your hand or tools in, much less move them around) in order to reattach things properly.
Red label Titebond is readily available on Amazon and on your doorstep in 24-48 hours, no excuse to not use it.
Every bond on a guitar has to be able to be compromised if need be. Necks have to be reset over time. Acoustic bridges crack and have to be removed and replaced. Braces, ribs and kerflings come loose and residues have to be removed (from inside an acoustic box that's hard to fit your hand or tools in, much less move them around) in order to reattach things properly.
Red label Titebond is readily available on Amazon and on your doorstep in 24-48 hours, no excuse to not use it.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 4:33 pm to SEClint
quote:
I offered absolutely no help
You really did, even if you don't realize it.
Sometimes, it's important to leave well enough alone.
Another friend of mine, had to straighten me out yesterday.
I have a fantastic partscaster for sale, that just isn't selling. It plays and sounds incredible, but I put a rough barnyard looking finish on it. I love that look and feel on a guitar myself, but maybe other people don't, so I was thinking about taking that guitar apart and rebuilding it on a nice finished body that I have, in fire engine red.
My friend said to me though, " it's hard to catch lightning twice, don't frick with it, it's too good".
Simple wisdom.
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