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Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:24 pm to GaryGator
Ed just messing around..test driving someone else's guitar.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 3/2/26 at 9:58 pm to Bryno1960
Mean street
Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:09 am to Bryno1960
Epic. Have never not had at least half dozen on my iPod
Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:05 am to Bryno1960
It defined the 70s for me. This one and Boston's first. Just wow. We'll never see that again. I know they were both from the second half of the decade but to me that is the defining era since i was too young in the early part and it sounded more like a grimy continuation of the sixties.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:14 am to RichJ
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One of my favorite albums for sure, but my favorite VH song is still “Unchained”…
Same
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:16 am to nealnan8
You are either a moron or trolling. So, condolences, or frick off.
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"Apart from maybe Jimi, IMO, no one has had more influence on rock guitar than EVH."
.. you are kidding with this statement, correct?
These people were much more influential:
1. Les Paul - who was EVH's hero and main influencer.
2. Jeff Beck
3. Pete Townsend
4. Robert Johnson
5. Carl Perkins
6. Jimmy Page
7. John McLaughlin
8. Carlos Santana
9. David Gilmour
10.Leslie West
11. Johnny Winter
12. Robert Fripp
13. Marc Bolan
14. Peter Green
15. Eric Clapton
16. Elmore James
17. Bo Diddley
18. Tommy Iommi
19. Chet Atkins
20. Duane Allman
Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:58 am to nealnan8
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..... Nego please! There was nothing original about Van Halen just radio rack for teenagers who couldn't get dates.
A band lead by a talentless, strutting arse, with a wonderfully talented guitarist with no desire to expand his sound to something new.
David Lee Roth was not a talented singer, lyricist, or musician... but he was extremely talented at being the frontman for Van Halen. Take DLR and put him in any other band - Poison, Guns 'N' Roses, Def Leppard, anyone - and he wouldn't fit right. Take any far more talented vocalist like, oh, I don't know, let's say Sammy Hagar, and Van Halen just wouldn't be the same. DLR may be the all-time poster child for being in the right place at the right time.
Posted on 3/3/26 at 12:55 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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David Lee Roth was not a talented singer, lyricist, or musician.
Certainly not a talented musician. But he was more than fine as a singer - much better than he gets credit for. In rock music it's about your voice fitting the music and the band, and DLR's voice was perfect for Van Halen.
And he wrote virtually all of the lyrics to Van Halen's songs, some of the most iconic songs in rock history.
WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:15 pm to Bryno1960
So unique and different from anything else at the time. VH still my go to for working out
Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:36 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Certainly not a talented musician. But he was more than fine as a singer - much better than he gets credit for. In rock music it's about your voice fitting the music and the band, and DLR's voice was perfect for Van Halen.
This is just a rewording of my post so yeah, I agree with this, since it's what I already said.
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And he wrote virtually all of the lyrics to Van Halen's songs, some of the most iconic songs in rock history.
He wasn't a terrible lyricist but when people talk about Van Halen songs no one is bringing up the lyrics. Jim Morrison he was not.
You seem to be getting angry at me for putting down Roth when my post was actually a defense of him against something someone else posted earlier in this thread.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:30 am to Bryno1960
I'm of firm opinion, to be appreciated correctly, Van Halen must be listened to at full volume, in the summer time, emanating from a pair of 6x9" speakers, in a Gen II Camaro or Firebird, with the T-Tops open...
Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:50 am to TheTideMustRoll
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You seem to be getting angry at me for putting down Roth when my post was actually a defense of him against something someone else posted earlier in this thread.
I'm not angry at all. This is just a discussion about rock and roll.
You said he wasn't a good singer, lyricist or musician. And that he was just a front man who got lucky to be in a band of great musicians.
I completely disagree. Roth WAS a great front man. Maybe the best ever. But he was also very good to great in the other categories, except perhaps musician.
I believe it was the melding of Roth's love of Motown, vaudeville, showtoons and pop music, and Eddie's love of rock and metal that made the Van Halen sound. They each kept each other from drifting too far in the wrong direction.
That's why their sound was so unique. And you can see it in the way Roth was a complete failure as a solo artist, outside of a few hits, and Van Halen's sound completely changed with Sammy Hagar.
Hagar is also a great front man, but he and Eddie did not have the same chemistry. They made some solid music together, but it was not the same as the Roth era.
And when Eddie didn't have Roth or Hagar, he made a stinker of an album. I'm perhaps the biggest Eddie fan around, but that album was awful.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 12:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I completely disagree. Roth WAS a great front man. Maybe the best ever.
I would say, "agree to disagree," but as I have already pointed out, we don't actually disagree about this. Roth was an incredible frontman - for, very specifically, Van Halen.
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But he was also very good to great in the other categories, except perhaps musician.
Here we disagree in that I do not think that Roth was a very good vocalist in a vacuum. Listening to his vocal track for "Running With the Devil" with all of the instruments removed is an educational (and hilarious) activity here. But, again, his very distinct vocal style fit Van Halen's sound perfectly in a way that it wouldn't have for pretty much any other band.
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And you can see it in the way Roth was a complete failure as a solo artist, outside of a few hits, and Van Halen's sound completely changed with Sammy Hagar.
Hagar is also a great front man, but he and Eddie did not have the same chemistry. They made some solid music together, but it was not the same as the Roth era.
And when Eddie didn't have Roth or Hagar, he made a stinker of an album. I'm perhaps the biggest Eddie fan around, but that album was awful.
Maybe the problem is that either you don't understand what I'm trying to say or that I haven't done a very good job of saying it, because again, you're making the same point I'm making. I 100% agree that Roth was a fantastic vocalist for Van Halen and that the band was lesser without him, even in a case where they had a vocalist who, again in a vacuum, was a more talented singer than he was. I'm not saying Roth didn't bring anything to the table as Van Halen's frontman and was just standing there while everything happened around him. He was really, insanely talented at a very specific job, which was being the frontman for Van Halen. By "being in the right place at the right time" I mean that he just so happened to wind up in the exact band that fit that very specific talent perfectly.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 1:51 pm to TheTideMustRoll
I understand your points. We are mostly in agreement.
I think we are 100 percent in agreement that Van Halen was awesome.
I think we are 100 percent in agreement that Van Halen was awesome.
Posted on 3/5/26 at 3:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:26 pm to Bryno1960
That was an awesome album - a CLASSIC. I wore my cassette tape out.
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