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re: Would Jimi Hendrix be a famous musician today?
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:58 am to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:58 am to SCLSUMuddogs
And he would undoubtedly be famous. Stevie Ray Vaughn was famous, Jack white is famous, Gary Clark Junior is famous.
Also, Musicians have more freedom and autonomy today than they did back in the day. Like 3 studios ran everything and controlled all the music rights. Bands like the monkees were constructed exclusively due to the record companies. That didn’t change until pretty recently too. *NSYNC is one of those groups.
I feel like the overall logic is flawed
Also, Musicians have more freedom and autonomy today than they did back in the day. Like 3 studios ran everything and controlled all the music rights. Bands like the monkees were constructed exclusively due to the record companies. That didn’t change until pretty recently too. *NSYNC is one of those groups.
I feel like the overall logic is flawed
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:00 am to bazeball
What most people don't want to admit is that the talent pool is much deeper today. What set Jimi apart is that he was the revolutionary one. He got there first. Same with EVH. He did things that many bedroom guitarists can replicate today...but he did it first and that's what made him great. A quick scroll through instagram or youtube and there are thousands of guitarists that have equal or better chops than Jimi. But Jimi did it first, and that deserves credit.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:00 am to 777Tiger
He would be famous just not mainstream if that makes sense. The music labels are the biggest hurdle because they care more about maximizing profits than signing good artists.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:06 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Jimi would be a pretty mediocre professional player these days.
nah, he, and others like him have inspired so many to become talented guitar players, and you tube has helped them along too
, Hendrix wasn't some overnight Psychedelic success, he spent years honing his craft on the chittlin' circuit with Little Richard and The Isley Brothers, he was innovative in pushing the electric guitar and effects to new heights, and with, by today's standards, a lot less technology, at the time of his death he was/had moved on from Psychedelic/metal and was pushing new innovative envelopes, no sir, Jimi would have done just fine todayPosted on 7/1/22 at 9:07 am to dchog
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The music labels are the biggest hurdle because they care more about maximizing profits than signing good artists.
I just don't see how that aspect is any different now than it was 60 years ago.
Music goes in circles and in 2022 rock music is no longer king. That's the major hurdle I see to mainstream success. The access is more there now than it's ever been. It seems like everyday another youtube or soundcloud musician is making their own way
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 am to bazeball
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. The industry is starved for creativity and talent.
No it isn't. They would rather pump a shite load of money and marketing into someone like Miley Cyrus than sign an actual talent.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:10 am to carrguitar
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He did things that many bedroom guitarists can replicate today...but he did it first and that's what made him great.
I agree. I can play many of those licks because they invented them. I (and 99.999% of players) could never invent them. That's what made those two great.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:15 am to bazeball
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I can play many of those licks because they invented them. I (and 99.999% of players) could never invent them. That's what made those two great.
when I was a kid it was common to hear(among musicians,) something like "there's less than five guitarists in the world that can do... fill in the blank," inventors and innovators make the difference, makes it a lot easier to "learn" something if someone has already invented it, right now, with you tube, almost anyone can become a decent guitarist in a very short time
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:18 am to Geekboy
Jimi Hendrix truly was a great songwriter in addition to being a great musician.
My question, though… would today’s young audiences appreciate the types of songs Hendrix put together as much as the music-buying public of the past?
I think that same audience exists today, but that audience is not the mainstream. Today’s mainstream music is largely idiotic.
My question, though… would today’s young audiences appreciate the types of songs Hendrix put together as much as the music-buying public of the past?
I think that same audience exists today, but that audience is not the mainstream. Today’s mainstream music is largely idiotic.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:20 am to carrguitar
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A quick scroll through instagram or youtube and there are thousands of guitarists that have equal or better chops than Jimi.
Right. But they are not famous.
You do however make a good point about Jimi "doing it first".
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:21 am to SCLSUMuddogs
It was different because music labels wanted to make money and sound good. Now it is catering to everyone and pop music which is music for the masses has that advantage over other genres.
So Hendrix and other guitar greats like EVH, Roy Clark and others would have to go to independent or social media to make it big and a lot of artists have made a very good living doing that.
So Hendrix and other guitar greats like EVH, Roy Clark and others would have to go to independent or social media to make it big and a lot of artists have made a very good living doing that.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:21 am to GumboPot
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:25 am to SpqrTiger
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I think that same audience exists today, but that audience is not the mainstream. Today’s mainstream music is largely idiotic.
disco, punk, rap, and hip hip, really dumbd down the need for artistic talent as far as, singing, song writing, and musicianship, then Disney and Sony "created" the new audience by shaping their expectations and tastes by the advent of boy/girl bands, meaning they cornered the market on who will be put out there as "talent" and made it pretty difficult for an independent artist to break into the scene, the karaoke shows, "American Idol," etc., have exacerbated the issue
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:25 am to SpqrTiger
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My question, though… would today’s young audiences appreciate the types of songs Hendrix put together as much as the music-buying public of the past?
He would be in the jam scene imo.
Not necessarily with a band like Phish, but in that genre. I dont know if he would exist by himself, if that makes sense. He would be welcomed with open arms in the jam/psych rock scene. It's big, just not headlining pop music festivals.
There's a TON of good live music, we just dont see much of it in the south. I think about young up and coming guys like Billy Strings, Goose, etc. and that's where he would be
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:26 am to Shexter
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YouTube - Taylor Swift is Horrible Live
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:28 am to GumboPot
Billy strings seems to be doing alright... Was playing small venues just 3 years ago. Multiple friends have met him Now he has a Grammy wrote the music to a grateful dead song at the request of Billy Kreutzmann and every Jam band front man has sat in to play with him because he is quite possibly the best guitarist touring the world right now and a bluegrass musician at that.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:30 am to bazeball
If the music labels were so starved for talent then the music of today wouldn't sound so bad. They want the type of music that will cater to all demographics and not just some.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:30 am to Abstract Queso Dip
Billy is the man. Good friends with my cousin
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:30 am to SpqrTiger
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would today’s young audiences appreciate the types of songs Hendrix put together as much as the music-buying public of the past?
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Today’s mainstream music is largely idiotic.
Now I understand. My bad and I apologize unreservedly.
I now understand the point of view. Yes, I tend to agree. Today’s music and it’s fans are largely morons and have zero taste. Hendrix probably would not appeal to today’s clueless, taste in their arse, music fan.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:30 am to GumboPot
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I'm utterly and absolutely convinced that if Jimi Hendrix came along today, no one would notice him.
I'm pretty sure no one in the US noticed him at first even back then. He went to England, blew up big there and then came back to America.
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