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re: 2021 Lakers Thread
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:52 am to saintsfan92612
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:52 am to saintsfan92612
Chuck:
I'm not looking forward to it. The playoffs are like a real job around here.
I'm not looking forward to it. The playoffs are like a real job around here.
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:54 am to MrJimBeam
One of the Milwaukee firsts (2025?) conveys to Portland under certain circumstances.
IIRC, this year’s Lakers pick has to be top 10 and that Bucks pick isn’t top 4.
But that is a good overview.
We bet the Lakers would collapse under their own weight due to the costs of the trade, LeBron’s age, and Toni’s injuries and have proven correct.
We also bet that the Bucks would collapse and that Giannis would bolt. They are in cap hell but Giannis doesn’t seem likely to force his way out between being happy there and winning a title.
If the Buck picks don’t thr. Out to be anything special, I won’t be upset since the Laker trade has panned out so far.
IIRC, this year’s Lakers pick has to be top 10 and that Bucks pick isn’t top 4.
But that is a good overview.
We bet the Lakers would collapse under their own weight due to the costs of the trade, LeBron’s age, and Toni’s injuries and have proven correct.
We also bet that the Bucks would collapse and that Giannis would bolt. They are in cap hell but Giannis doesn’t seem likely to force his way out between being happy there and winning a title.
If the Buck picks don’t thr. Out to be anything special, I won’t be upset since the Laker trade has panned out so far.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:55 am to MrJimBeam
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I can’t remember which ones were already traded out actually. Just the original trades. Devonte is one of these.
Devonte was our 22 pick, but unless we make the playoffs then it's just going to be 2 second round picks. CJ was the other half of our 22 pick, but it's still top 4 protected, so it's likely going to the Blazers at 11.
Val was the Lakers 22 pick, but it was top 10 protected and so that's going to be 2 second round picks.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:58 am to htran90
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I really, really want us to make the playoffs and the Lakers to miss it again next year.
Imagine that pick swap would just burn
To me, this would be possibly the most amazing part of the trade. If we nail their pick this year and get a healthy Zion, we will be tough to beat. The end of the bench is still an issue, but we have a young group of guys that are likely to improve going into next year mixed with some great vets.
The Lakers are still fricked with Westbrook. I honestly think the best way for them to rebuild is trade AD now. That locker room is filled with divas so I can only imagine the tension right now
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:59 am to Epic Cajun
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Devonte was our 22 pick, but unless we make the playoffs then it's just going to be 2 second round picks. CJ was the other half of our 22 pick, but it's still top 4 protected, so it's likely going to the Blazers at 11.
Val was the Lakers 22 pick, but it was top 10 protected and so that's going to be 2 second round picks.
That makes sense. Still a ton of 1st rounders/swaps left to keep this team deep if we can nail the draft.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:00 am to Epic Cajun
Still can’t get over our front office trading the same pick to get CJ and Graham then trading another pick for JV.
Can’t win them all but two of those were excellent value. Plus Graham.
Can’t win them all but two of those were excellent value. Plus Graham.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:03 am to MrJimBeam
We are potentially going into a run where we have our core of the present and future, meaning we potentially have these high firsts for bench guys or trade fodder.
Absolute best case scenario is that we lose in the play in then hit both picks in the lottery, meaning the ability to pick two guys who can be the future of the team or at least backstop our stars like Zion for injury.
Absolute best case scenario is that we lose in the play in then hit both picks in the lottery, meaning the ability to pick two guys who can be the future of the team or at least backstop our stars like Zion for injury.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:12 am to MrJimBeam
As far as the Lake Show goes, they have about 7 guys under contract.
LeBron, AD, and Westbrick are three of them making about $40m+ each.
THT is making $10m.
Nunn, coming off a missed season, is making $5m.
They have two guys on small team options.
That isn’t a starting lineup, they have no picks they can trade before 2027 and can’t swap before 2026 IIRC since one of 2024 or 2025 will convey to us.
They don’t really have a good way to take Toni or Westbrook’s five dollar arse and make change as a result. Which means they will be standing pat and bringing in vets on the minimum (not getting good ones due to team dynamic), they flip Toni into pieces not worth what they paid us for him, or they take long term money in exchange for Westbrick and hope the guys coming in are a better fit.
IOW, they appear to be in the same problem the Knicks kept getting themselves into… a refusal or inability to bottom out and clear space, thus digging themselves deeper by trading future picks and being unable to capitalize when they do bottom out.
LeBron, AD, and Westbrick are three of them making about $40m+ each.
THT is making $10m.
Nunn, coming off a missed season, is making $5m.
They have two guys on small team options.
That isn’t a starting lineup, they have no picks they can trade before 2027 and can’t swap before 2026 IIRC since one of 2024 or 2025 will convey to us.
They don’t really have a good way to take Toni or Westbrook’s five dollar arse and make change as a result. Which means they will be standing pat and bringing in vets on the minimum (not getting good ones due to team dynamic), they flip Toni into pieces not worth what they paid us for him, or they take long term money in exchange for Westbrick and hope the guys coming in are a better fit.
IOW, they appear to be in the same problem the Knicks kept getting themselves into… a refusal or inability to bottom out and clear space, thus digging themselves deeper by trading future picks and being unable to capitalize when they do bottom out.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:23 am to teke184
frick the lakers, lulz.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:25 am to touchdownjeebus
They seem to be taking turns fricking each other.
We just need to sit back with popcorn and reap the results of their failure.
We just need to sit back with popcorn and reap the results of their failure.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:30 am to teke184
It’s wild to think this will be multiple lottery picks. The implosion this season on the court and in the locker room will be fun to watch. I can’t imagine any team helping them because frick the lakers.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:35 am to teke184
The crazy thing is, the Lakers were in a great spot as a rebuilding team before Lebron. They had the young assets that they could build on, the cap space and the attraction to LA. They were in a good enough spot to attract the best player in the league.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:39 am to MrJimBeam
Given what assets the Lakers have, the most “help” I see is someone trading multiple long term shite contracts for Westbrook.
Failing that, Rich Paul will probably try to force a sign and trade of someone like Zach Levine from Chicago to LA for a package centered around AD.
How that will work given that the Lakers have no room to sign him and few assets to trade for him is another question.
Failing that, Rich Paul will probably try to force a sign and trade of someone like Zach Levine from Chicago to LA for a package centered around AD.
How that will work given that the Lakers have no room to sign him and few assets to trade for him is another question.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:40 am to bugafor6
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The crazy thing is, the Lakers were in a great spot as a rebuilding team before Lebron. They had the young assets that they could build on, the cap space and the attraction to LA. They were in a good enough spot to attract the best player in the league.
Yea they did a solid job here. Got a lot of young talent, brought in LeBron. The issue they ran into was trading Ingram at a low point causing them to give up a shite load of other pieces on top of him.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:41 am to teke184
Would be hilarious if AD demanded a trade. Chicago would be a place he'd want considering he's from there. Their off season will be interesting to watch.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:44 am to dj30
Given that they didn’t have the room to absorb Toni’s salary in a legal trade without sending out a comparable amount, they had to ship out everyone under contract but LeBron and either Hart or Kuzma, plus a few end of bench guys who ended up in DC, in order to get AD and had him renounce his trade kicker for cap reasons.
That meant Ingram and Lonzo had to go regardless of their value at the time.
That meant Ingram and Lonzo had to go regardless of their value at the time.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:47 am to MrJimBeam
AD won’t demand anything. Rich Paul and LeBron are running his career and he is doing what he is told.
He seems to be having a mental breakdown as he realizes how badly he fricked up, IMHO, because he is no longer perceived as a star or a nice guy and his next contract won’t be near as rich at this point.
He seems to be having a mental breakdown as he realizes how badly he fricked up, IMHO, because he is no longer perceived as a star or a nice guy and his next contract won’t be near as rich at this point.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:47 am to teke184
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Still can’t get over our front office trading the same pick to get CJ and Graham then trading another pick for JV.
I don't recall a situation ever where a pick had 3 different protections, possibly going to 3 different teams depending upon where it lands.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:52 am to teke184
The players arent the issue. A top 4 draft pick was included in this deal. Some of those back end 1sts and pick swaps could have been saved.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:52 am to Epic Cajun
Mickey Loomis finally figured out the NBA game
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