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re: Bill Simmons says a reliable source told him Zion won't be on the Pelicans come Thursday
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:54 am to tigerbait3488
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:54 am to tigerbait3488
quote:Things I said during the AD debacle
We need to move his lazy arse and his toxic step-father out of this organization and start moving forward.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:58 am to TigerinATL
I don't really want Ayton or his salary. Not a big fan of Sharpe either.
We'd now have a glut of shoot-first Guards and even worse on D.
Plus a chronic underachiever in Ayton.
I'd much prefer the Charlotte package.
We'd now have a glut of shoot-first Guards and even worse on D.
Plus a chronic underachiever in Ayton.
I'd much prefer the Charlotte package.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:58 am to Soggymoss
quote:
Would that be enough for Suns to trade Ayton though?
I don't know if Ayton is that positive of a value right now so 3 major pieces would be a great return.
I think the issue would be more fit, especially Rozier (unless he's a bench guy only).
Beal, Booker, Jones, KD I guess could work for a 1-4 b/c Booker and KD will be doing the majority of playmaking regardless.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:00 am to ghost2most
quote:
Plus a chronic underachiever in Ayton.
People would have a much different view of Ayton if he was allowed to be more of a lead guy.
But there is always the concern that he was just playing hard enough to get the 2nd contract, which have been rumors since he was a prospect.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
As far as Ayton I would pretty much immediately turn around and offer him to Indiana for Turner and one of their late 1sts if i don’t think he can help me.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:07 am to Soggymoss
A motivated Ayton is literally what we need from the 5
But I don't know if this team could rise to title contender unless Sharpe and Scoot really are those guys.
Ayton
Trey
Ingram
CJ
Scoot
That's a mix of shooting levels and playmaking. Defense becomes a major concern, though (even with a hypothetically motivated Ayton anchoring things).
But I don't know if this team could rise to title contender unless Sharpe and Scoot really are those guys.
Ayton
Trey
Ingram
CJ
Scoot
That's a mix of shooting levels and playmaking. Defense becomes a major concern, though (even with a hypothetically motivated Ayton anchoring things).
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:07 am to Soggymoss
Yeah, my concern with Ayton would be if Monty hates him then Willie would too.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:10 am to TigerinATL
Assuming Ayton hasn't checked out (which I do believe because he's angry and if he was truly checked out he wouldn't care and would just cash checks), I think more shots is what he wants. Pre-CP3 he was projecting to a 22+ ppg guy and took a back seat (that got further back when they got KD).
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:12 am to Soggymoss
quote:wet dream. Will never happen.
Pels: Ayton, Sharpe, #2, future swaps from Blazers
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:17 am to Macintosh
quote:
And the way his source said this seemed shady and bs
You were in the room with them?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:20 am to Macintosh
Yeah....
will be interesting though.
Think its a win all around for Zion to be moved (Pels, NBA, Zion)
will be interesting though.
Think its a win all around for Zion to be moved (Pels, NBA, Zion)
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Only chance that team has of winning a title is if Scoot is an MVP level.
I kinda doubt he is.
I’m only trading Zion if i have a plan to get the next MVP and that’s banking kn charlotte continuing to suck and imploding because Zion doesn’t change.
So we need their picks and swaps.
The team you just referenced is not a title winner.
I kinda doubt he is.
I’m only trading Zion if i have a plan to get the next MVP and that’s banking kn charlotte continuing to suck and imploding because Zion doesn’t change.
So we need their picks and swaps.
The team you just referenced is not a title winner.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
People would have a much different view of Ayton if he was allowed to be more of a lead guy.
He's not a lead guy. That's the problem with him and his massive contract.
He's a really good offensive center, but he's not Embiid/Jokic level good, but he's getting paid like it. On top of that, he's not even a good defender as he is just an average rim protector at best.
Lauri Markannen, according to rim protecting stats, is a much better rim protector than Ayton. Now i'd bet that he's up there more so b/c he plays next to Kessler, who is also high up on the list, but regardless, i'd much rather Markannen than Ayton, and i'd give up a lot more for him.
I'd rather give up 4 1sts and go get Markennen, if that is even a possibility.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:42 am to TeddyPadillac
I just finally listened to it. The exact quote and the way they just glossed right over it, I don't think Simmons was saying that as a sourced comment, but more of just what someone who is connected thinks will happen.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:43 am to ghost2most
quote:
I’m only trading Zion if i have a plan to get the next MVP
You might as well say you’re not trading Zion, which is fine, but the only way to get a “replacement” MVP is to draft him, which means getting lucky in the right draft.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:47 am to Erdace
May get downvoted to hell but sorry I’d still take my chances on Zion’s dominance over Scoot. I’d take the chance that he eventually gets it and figured his shite out because Scoot isn’t on the same planet as Zion.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:54 am to LSUPilot07
quote:
May get downvoted to hell but sorry I’d still take my chances on Zion’s dominance over Scoot. I’d take the chance that he eventually gets it and figured his shite out because Scoot isn’t on the same planet as Zion.
Agreed. If Zion has a meeting with Griffin about wanting a trade. Then we trade him. But if he wants to stay, we should keep him. He makes the whole team better when he plays.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:21 am to TigerinATL
quote:
Has Simmons ever been a news breaker?
He had LeBron to LA before anyone else. But, like most of his predictions, that one was more him connecting dots instead of relying on sources, so this is different.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:37 am to TotesMcGotes
I’m seeing Sharpe mentioned
No way in hell Portland moves Sharpe imo
They love the kid and all the questions about his character and game translating have been debunked. He’s arguably the most explosive athlete in the nba, has off the dribble game, can already shoot the 3, and showed effort and want on defense.
If there was a redraft of 2022, he’d probably go top 2 or 3. He’s probably untouchable from Portland’s standpoint.
No way in hell Portland moves Sharpe imo
They love the kid and all the questions about his character and game translating have been debunked. He’s arguably the most explosive athlete in the nba, has off the dribble game, can already shoot the 3, and showed effort and want on defense.
If there was a redraft of 2022, he’d probably go top 2 or 3. He’s probably untouchable from Portland’s standpoint.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:52 am to 3PieceSpicy
Then they might as well trade Dame, because any team will want Sharpe along with 3 for an all star level player
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