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re: CJ has some bad BBIQ for a vet
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:32 pm to Dantheman504
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:32 pm to Dantheman504
cj no doubt has been bad overall this season, but he'd tell you how good his bbiq is which is what this thread is titled. and it's extra odd timing, cause his bbiq wasn't bad tonight either
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:33 pm to shel311
I will laugh at you until you acknowledge that CJ makes boneheaded low IQ plays more often than not. Game after game. Even if he does a lot of things right he does a good bit wrong. Your brain is too small to comprehend both sides of that.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:33 pm to Dantheman504
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Even CJ will admit he’s struggling and Shel would argue with him.
It's baffling how every different debate we have, how you completely miss the mark on what myself and others are arguing, despite directly telling you, honestly in some cases probably over a dozen times.
Like you saying probably 5 times that everyone was telling you we didn't need a 3rd big and probably 6 people were telling you multiple times we could use a 3rd big.
It's truly baffling, I'd love to figure out where you're completely missing the mark, and whether you're just completely ignoring and not reading replies to you or what it is that causes you to do that.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:35 pm to Dantheman504
quote:idiots!!!!
I will laugh at you until you acknowledge that CJ makes boneheaded low IQ plays more often than not. Game after game. Even if he does a lot of things right he does a good bit wrong. Your brain is too small to comprehend both sides of that
I will laugh at you. Man, I'd hope you'd be embarrassed at the way you post if you go back and read this.
You can't claim you want honest debates then every time you debate you resort to calling people stupid and idiots and you'll laugh at them if they don't agree with your opinion. It's just not a good look, I'd hope you realize that.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:36 pm to shel311
My argument was that it’s worth it to spend money for a good big…. Because no one is giving away quality bigs without getting value or you’d end up with Jaxson Hayes.
In that same argument people stated “we don’t have minutes for a good player that cost us value so let’s just pay 2nds for a big with limited value who isn’t even worth playing.”
Y’all want to upgrade from Billy and Jaxson by spending assets that would get you players like Billy and Jaxson lol.
In that same argument people stated “we don’t have minutes for a good player that cost us value so let’s just pay 2nds for a big with limited value who isn’t even worth playing.”
Y’all want to upgrade from Billy and Jaxson by spending assets that would get you players like Billy and Jaxson lol.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:37 pm to jprdbulldog20
quote:I don't know that anyone disagrees with that and I've said that in every last CJ discussion but that poster, as I pointed out, will ignore it every single time and instead pretend I've never ever ever said that CJ hasn't played to expectations this season.
cj no doubt has been bad overall this season
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:38 pm to shel311
Bro you and that LSU whatever dude died on the hill of “everything bad I say about CJ is because he’s missing shots”. Even though every time we have this argument I say it’s because of decision making. Hahaha
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:38 pm to Dantheman504
quote:And probably 5 or so dudes disagreed specifically stating we could use a 3rd big but on smaller scale, a Noel type.
My argument was that it’s worth it to spend money for a good big
And yet you replied probably 5 or more times, because I called out each one, that everyone was arguing that we didn't need a big.
Be honest, tell me is that what happens or not?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:41 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Bro, I've said in every cud discussion he hasn't played well this season.
Bro you and that LSU whatever dude died on the hill of “everything bad I say about CJ is because he’s missing shots”. Even though every time we have this argument I say it’s because of decision making. Hahaha
And you respond in every single one of those that I refuse to criticize him, and now it's "idiots" that won't criticize him.
But again, you do this thing where you ignore direct posts and what people tell you and pretend it's the exact opposite for some weird reason.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:42 pm to shel311
You are the master of nitpicking a detail/ post to instigate an argument instead of just admitting you were wrong about something.
You lose an argument so you just find another argument instead of just saying “wow yeah you may have a decent point”
I’ll atleast acknowledge the points you make. You completely ignore it and say “well what about this thing you said huh”
You lose an argument so you just find another argument instead of just saying “wow yeah you may have a decent point”
I’ll atleast acknowledge the points you make. You completely ignore it and say “well what about this thing you said huh”
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:44 pm to shel311
This is a weird hill to die On. CJ wasn’t the reason we lost.
Turnovers, lack of rebounding without JV, because he can’t stay out there or WG doesn’t have confidence in him and lack of offense without Z on the floor is what lost us this game.
Turnovers, lack of rebounding without JV, because he can’t stay out there or WG doesn’t have confidence in him and lack of offense without Z on the floor is what lost us this game.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:44 pm to Dantheman504
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I’ll atleast acknowledge the points you make
I've given you multiple examples where you do the exact opposite.
But again, I'll ask since you avoided the question, Be honest, tell me is exactly that what happened or not?
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:46 pm to WicKed WayZ
quote:It's the hill this poster dies on every night.
This is a weird hill to die On. CJ wasn’t the reason we lost.
That poster swore that CJ needed to shoot less and pass more on his poor shooting nights. I pointed out with actual facts that CJ indeed did shoot much less and rack up a good bit more assists on his 10 worst shootings nights vs his 10 best shooting nights. You'd think the poster would concede, but the goalposts moved and yet he still believes that despite the Stas saying CJ does exactly what he is asking for.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:47 pm to yaboidarrell
Jrue would’ve been great for this team..i miss him man
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:52 pm to imAMAZING
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Jrue would’ve been great for this team..i miss him man
Seriously, I have had that same thought many times this season. I don't dislike CJ but he has had a poor season thus far. The offense runs much better without him controlling it. Without BI, Point Zion, Jose, and Daniels are all preferable options running things.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 11:56 pm to WicKed WayZ
You are seeing the wrong issue. CJ was not the main reason we lost tonight. But was also not the reason we won or helped us keep composure.
He is our highest paid player and viewed as our leader for these exact moments. To help dig us out of holes and take control of the game. How often has he done that in any of our close loses? The answer is barely none or we would win games instead of having close losses.
Instead he plays hero ball, gets turnovers, and takes quick shots without running offensive sets in crunch time. Quite often.
I’ll stop bitching about it when CJ digs us out of a losing game. I won’t just ignore that because he has good games when 9 other players on our team also play well. When everyone plays bad he’s supposed to be paid to step up.
He is our highest paid player and viewed as our leader for these exact moments. To help dig us out of holes and take control of the game. How often has he done that in any of our close loses? The answer is barely none or we would win games instead of having close losses.
Instead he plays hero ball, gets turnovers, and takes quick shots without running offensive sets in crunch time. Quite often.
I’ll stop bitching about it when CJ digs us out of a losing game. I won’t just ignore that because he has good games when 9 other players on our team also play well. When everyone plays bad he’s supposed to be paid to step up.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 12:02 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:01 am to WicKed WayZ
CJ was a big reason why we lost tonight.
Watch the first 6 minutes of the game.
Watch the last 2 minutes of the first half again.
Watch the CJ vs Naw minutes in the 3rd quarter.
That is 3 segments he completely individually torpedoed tonight. And that’s not even acknowledging the play here or there that cropped up through all 4 quarters and OT.
I’ve been a huge CJ defender here. This is probably the lowest IQ game he has had in New Orleans. His shooting almost canceled it out tonight, but ultimately we lost, so he is getting heat. He also makes $35M a year. So while there was coaching and other players that contributed to the loss. We are paying him too much to contribute to losing as much as he did tonight.
Watch the first 6 minutes of the game.
Watch the last 2 minutes of the first half again.
Watch the CJ vs Naw minutes in the 3rd quarter.
That is 3 segments he completely individually torpedoed tonight. And that’s not even acknowledging the play here or there that cropped up through all 4 quarters and OT.
I’ve been a huge CJ defender here. This is probably the lowest IQ game he has had in New Orleans. His shooting almost canceled it out tonight, but ultimately we lost, so he is getting heat. He also makes $35M a year. So while there was coaching and other players that contributed to the loss. We are paying him too much to contribute to losing as much as he did tonight.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:10 am to 3PieceSpicy
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CJ McCollum on #Pelicans in close games: "Hopefully these overtimes pay dividends for us down the stretch of the season (and) we're a little bit better, a little bit more crisp. I'll do a better job of getting us in better position to succeed." New Orleans is now 1-4 in OTs
Better job is not to take low percentage shots.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:14 am to duyp
“I’ll do a better job of getting us in better positions to succeed”
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“I have NOT done a great job of getting us in better positions to succeed in close games”
Pretty much exactly what I said above.
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“I have NOT done a great job of getting us in better positions to succeed in close games”
Pretty much exactly what I said above.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:54 am to Dantheman504
Willie needs to explain to CJ the hierarchy of this team.
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