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re: Did we trade Asik for Mirotic?
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:57 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:57 pm to TigerinATL
Asik next year would be around $11.3M and Mirotic $12.5. Dell's complaining about $1.2M next year? With the buyout money saved, Pelicans save $1.8M. Can they not clear $1.2M in a single year?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:57 pm to NOFOX
Yeah, the Ringer is really dialed in when it comes to the Pels 
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:57 pm to Parrish
Dell can, but maybe he's getting push back from above (which is often the case).
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:58 pm to NOFOX
Surprised Bill gave his people time off from writing AD to Boston articles.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:58 pm to NOFOX
quote:Doubt that is the case. The 1st is all the Pels have to improve the roster and that is what Dell has been targeting.
Not so sure. From Kevin O'Connor:
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What also doesn't make sense is I'm hearing the Pelicans have been trying to dump Asik with their first—not trying to get value back (like Mirotic). Why don't Bulls deal Mirotic for value to another team, then absorb Asik into cap room and get the Pelicans first? Weird situation.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:01 pm to NOSHAU
I also don't understand why Mirotic is so worried about the money anyway. Someone will pay him more than $12.5M for a 6'10 F averaging 17/6 shooting 43% 3pt.
It's all very strange.
It's all very strange.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:03 pm to Parrish
I can’t help but wonder how awesome this would have been with boogie on the court...
WHY GOD? WHY???
WHY GOD? WHY???
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:04 pm to Parrish
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also don't understand why Mirotic is so worried about the money anyway. Someone will pay him more than $12.5M for a 6'10 F averaging 17/6 shooting 43% 3pt
I guess he just doesn't want to be traded to someone who will only keep him for half a season
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:04 pm to NOSHAU
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Doubt that is the case. The 1st is all the Pels have to improve the roster and that is what Dell has been targeting.
Then he should have Chicago pick up the option and make the trade. The reports that this trade is on the rocks because Dell doesn’t want to pick up the option means Dell basically just want some to use a 1st to dump Asik. Ridiculous.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:05 pm to NOSHAU
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Doubt that is the case. The 1st is all the Pels have to improve the roster and that is what Dell has been targeting.
Yeah, there's not much point to have been shopping the 1st during the season to dump Asik. That doesn't help much unless it's done in coordination with another move. But you wouldn't be able to make much of a 2nd move if you just burned your first dumping Asik.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:05 pm to Cap Crunch
The dude likes king cake and wants more than one season worth?
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:06 pm to PelicansBay
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If we get him, I hope he's here longterm. Mirotic, AD, and Cousins form a perfect 3 man rotation at PF and C. The team will need to monitor Boogie's minutes once he returns anyway.
Exactly. You would basically need a 4th big as insurance (Cunningham). And that’s it for the front court
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:14 pm to NOFOX
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Then he should have Chicago pick up the option and make the trade. The reports that this trade is on the rocks because Dell doesn’t want to pick up the option means Dell basically just want some to use a 1st to dump Asik. Ridiculous.
As far as we know, that is exactly what is happening. The Bulls are likely requesting more from the Pels in order for them to retain the option. The Pels were never trying to sacrifice a pick to get rid of Asik. That makes zero sense. If we stretched Asik, then he would only be a $3M cap hit for us. You think Dell is trying to give away a draft pick to save $3 million?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:16 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Yeah, I don't know why NoFox is dismissing hardball when he's right in pointing out the ridiculousness of the Pels alleged position. Speaking of hardball, Chicago says your move Dell
quote:
K.C. Johnson @KCJHoop 13 minutes ago
Nikola Mirotic is traveling with the Bulls to Portland, per team.
Kris Dunn ended up not traveling.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:17 pm to TigerinATL
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Ryan Baker @RyanBakerMedia · 4m Lots of moving & shaking with proposed Niko Mirotic trade to Pelicans, but as of now, the deal is off. Niko left with the #Bulls on road trip to Portland. Lauri Markkanen (personal reasons) & Kris Dunn (concussion) not traveling. Stay tuned... @cbschicago 2
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:20 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
I'll throw out possibility that a trade has been agreed to on paper but because of the Pels game tonight they're waiting until tomorrow to formally agree.
If trade is submitted today we wouldnt have Asik tonight. Fighting for a playoff spot we can't really afford to just give up another front count player and not immediately have the replacement. The Bulls play tomorrow, but not having Asik and Mirotic for one game only furthers their goal of losing as many games as possible.
If trade is submitted today we wouldnt have Asik tonight. Fighting for a playoff spot we can't really afford to just give up another front count player and not immediately have the replacement. The Bulls play tomorrow, but not having Asik and Mirotic for one game only furthers their goal of losing as many games as possible.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:23 pm to Parrish
If a deal was in place even tentatively both players would 100% be held out to avoid injury and the deal falling apart.
I think the deal really is off, for now, pending some kinks being worked out.
I think the deal really is off, for now, pending some kinks being worked out.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:24 pm to Parrish
They said on The Jump that it's on Mirotic to decide whether or not he wants to take the $12M or become a free agent and that the deal is off because he is blocking it somehow.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:27 pm to TigerinATL
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eah, I don't know why NoFox is dismissing hardball when he's right in pointing out the ridiculousness of the Pels alleged position. Speaking of hardball, Chicago says your move Dell
I’m not dismissing the hardball angle. I am just nervous that reporters are mentioning and we are at least posturing that we want dump Asik for a rental.
I want chicago to pick up the option. I want the Bird rights. What happens if Mirotic says fine, I’ll go? Then we don’t have his bird rights should we need them.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Maybe. But if you're the Bulls, do you really care about risk of Asik getting injured? If Asik is injured, it only pushes them to more losses (presumably signing someone off the street) and a better draft position.
Mirotic flying with the team only means no deal has been submitted. The Pelicans can find the man a first class flight from Portland to NOLA if they agree to a trade.
Mirotic flying with the team only means no deal has been submitted. The Pelicans can find the man a first class flight from Portland to NOLA if they agree to a trade.
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