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re: Fun Brandon Ingram stat
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:13 pm to BowDownToLSU
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:13 pm to BowDownToLSU
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Still gonna miss the game winner. I’ve never seen a NBA player miss so much when game is on the line. I don’t know if there is a stat for that but he’s got to be up there
Do you honestly want me to pull up the stats to prove you have no idea what you’re talking about?
So many of you thought one thing about BI and passed it on as fact despite the stats not favoring your dumbass opinions.
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:29 pm to iykyk985
quote:The Raptors have been better, factually, this season when BI is off the court... Just like the Pels were last season, factually... and just like the Pels were the season before that, factually.
Here's another Fun Brandon Ingram Stat for you.
31 / 8 / 6 last night (3 of 5 from three and + 12) in a win no less.
Just Sayin'
BI does not affect winning. He has a career Net Rating of +0.3.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:32 pm to iykyk985
quote:not wrong
and the other 'frontline players' he plays with show up. Just Sayin'
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:34 pm to shel311
LMAO!!!
The whole six years that BI was in New Orleans, the Pelicans have never looked this futile (and went to the post season twice). That's only a fact.
Try again.
The whole six years that BI was in New Orleans, the Pelicans have never looked this futile (and went to the post season twice). That's only a fact.
Try again.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:39 pm to iykyk985
quote:Everything I posted was a literal fact, not an opinion.
LMAO!!!
quote:The Pelicans won 21 games last season, BI was on the team. Even THAT team was better when BI was off the court, again, factually/not my opinion.
The whole six years that BI was in New Orleans, the Pelicans have never looked this futile
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:43 pm to shel311
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The Pelicans won 21 games last season, BI was on the team.
CORRECTION: BI was here for a little over half the season. It's convenient of you to forget, huh?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:45 pm to shel311
Hard disagree here. The reason why we haven't won any games in 2 years is that Brandon Ingram was hurt last year and he's not on our team this year. He kept us afloat as a Quasi Number 1, while Number 1 did anything but be a franchise player. If Zion is your best player, you win 20 games. If Ingram is your best player, you can win 45-50.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:47 pm to iykyk985
quote:How'd the Pels do during that time?
CORRECTION: BI was here for a little over half the season. It's convenient of you to forget, huh?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 9:49 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Wasn't an opinion
Hard disagree here.
Those were factual statements.
quote:We never won 45 games with BI as our best player.
. If Zion is your best player, you win 20 games. If Ingram is your best player, you can win 45-50.
We won 49 games with Zion as our best player.
Again, factually speaking.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 2:51 am to 3PieceSpicy
BI was hurt every year. He was a part time player for the pels. He had his moments but not sure why the nostalgia for his time here.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:24 am to TeddyPadillac
Maybe he meant to say that BI missed every game winner that he was watching and that gives the impression that he sucks more than what’s true!
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:01 am to shel311
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The Raptors have been better, factually, this season when BI is off the court... Just like the Pels were last season, factually... and just like the Pels were the season before that, factually. BI does not affect winning. He has a career Net Rating of +0.3.
You could just say the Raptors have been better this season.
They won 30 games last year. All they did was add BI and they have already won 33 and are likely to be a 50 win team. And Poeltl and Barrett have been out half the season thus far.
I guess they are winning a lot more games while overcoming BIs not winning ways
They must really regret trading for this losing player
Halliburton was just +2.5 on/off last season for the pacers. They are now one of the worse teams in the league without him.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 11:26 pm to TeddyPadillac
I sincerely think if we trade Zion to the Raptors, they have 10 less wins right now and we would have 10-15 more with Ingram
Ingram is just more of a complete basketball player in this era. I think we can use analytics as a guide, but when comparing Zion and BI's time here, there is one clear player to blame and it's not BI. BI had his flaws but he was typically available down the stretch, for play in and playoff games. Zion was a no show in those all important games 97% of the time.
Zion's made a career out of playing 3/4 of 1 important game in 7 years. I don't care what the analytics say, that's a shitty franchise player.
Ingram is just more of a complete basketball player in this era. I think we can use analytics as a guide, but when comparing Zion and BI's time here, there is one clear player to blame and it's not BI. BI had his flaws but he was typically available down the stretch, for play in and playoff games. Zion was a no show in those all important games 97% of the time.
Zion's made a career out of playing 3/4 of 1 important game in 7 years. I don't care what the analytics say, that's a shitty franchise player.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 6:06 am to Delusional
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No doubt in my mind that he is playing through minor injuries that he would have sat for weeks for in NOLA. We were lucky to get 60 games out of him the entire season.
Nobody wants to be here and is why the franchise remaining here is just hopeless. There is no path to sustained success with current NBA rules. I like the Pels but want them in Seattle, Vegas, or Nashville so they can attract players and win.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:03 am to Geauxldilocks
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Geauxldilocks
Give it up my guy.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 2:09 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Then explain why the Raptors have been factually better when BI is OFF the court this season...
You could just say the Raptors have been better this season.
They won 30 games last year. All they did was add BI
You can't insinuate that 100% of their improvement is BI like you did(by saying "all they did was add BI") but then ignore that they're better when he's off the court and not playing.
quote:Can you explain the laughing emojis? All I did was state facts, why do facts get you that defensive?
I guess they are winning a lot more games while overcoming BIs not winning ways
They must really regret trading for this losing player
quote:Wait, are you trying to argue that Haliburton is the ONLY thing different about the Pacers this season?
Halliburton was just +2.5 on/off last season for the pacers. They are now one of the worse teams in the league without him.
Bless your heart. Jarace Walker/Jay Huff/BenSheppard are all in the top 5 minutes for the Pacers this season, hopefully that alone can get you to concede that this was a terrible comparison. if you can't concede that, then you're not arguing in good faith or really just don't understand this year's Pacers vs last year's Pacers.
4 of their top 6 in minutes played last season are either not on the team or played a total of 3 games(Toppin) this season.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 2:11 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Just curious how you think that considering Zion's On/Off compared to BI's with the Pels. The Pels were better with Zion/no BI than they were with BI/no Zion.
I sincerely think if we trade Zion to the Raptors, they have 10 less wins right now and we would have 10-15 more with Ingram
To clarify, I don't care to really debate Zion vs BI because they both aren't max players are nearly as good as most of us thought they were when we got them. Neither lived up to the hype. BI had to settle for a much smaller contract because the league realized he's not THAT good. And Zion, well we know how much of a letdown he's been.
quote:IT's weird to think you can only blame one or the other, like it wasn't both of them sharing responsibility.
but when comparing Zion and BI's time here, there is one clear player to blame and it's not BI.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:15 pm to shel311
quote:
Then explain why the Raptors have been factually better when BI is OFF the court this season...
You can't insinuate that 100% of their improvement is BI like you did(by saying "all they did was add BI") but then ignore that they're better when he's off the court and not playing.
So since he was a negative player for us as well, we are better off without him right? We sure do look so much better this season without him. rolling eye emoji
Should the Magic then trade Banchero since they have a better record this year without him than with him, and he's also been a negative +/- player his entire time there?
quote:
Can you explain the laughing emojis? All I did was state facts, why do facts get you that defensive?
you mean rolling eyes?
All I did was state facts. The Raptors have won more games this year than last year. You dont' like those stats?
quote:
Wait, are you trying to argue that Haliburton is the ONLY thing different about the Pacers this season?
So we get to use that excuse for the Pacers, but BI having to constantly play without Zion is BI's fault we couldn't win more games?
Siakam is still healthy, and Myles Turner is overrated and there's a reason they let him go for nothing. Mathurin/Nembhard/Nemsith/McConnell were all playing to start the season and their record has been arse.
Why are the Magic better without Banchero? He must be a losing player right? Oh yeah Franz has been hurt for half this year, but i guess adding Desmond Bane over KCP didn't help them, huh? rollingeyes emoji.
By your logic and facts, they should trade his bum arse.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:25 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:He wasn't.
So since he was a negative player for us as well
quote:You're saying this like it's some crazy, impossible to thing when it's been a talking point all season, on whether Banchero is the right fit for Orlando.
Should the Magic then trade Banchero since they have a better record this year without him than with him, and he's also been a negative +/- player his entire time there?
quote:Ah yes, I forgot that Brandon Ingram was the model for health and availability with the Pels. Did you forget about that?
So we get to use that excuse for the Pacers, but BI having to constantly play without Zion is BI's fault we couldn't win more games?
quote:Why did you ignore what I showed about players getting minutes last season vs this season? It's not remotely the same team. You tried to pass it off as Halliburton being the only missing player, but you were wrong. You should have simply conceded that was a very bad comparison.
Siakam is still healthy, and Myles Turner is overrated
quote:Again, this has been a talking point all season, why are you acting like it's some crazy thing? That's pretty weird.
Why are the Magic better without Banchero? He must be a losing player right? Oh yeah Franz has been hurt for half this year, but i guess adding Desmond Bane over KCP didn't help them, huh? rollingeyes emoji.
By your logic and facts, they should trade his bum arse.
Also, you keep talking about others players being out, I don't think you have a fundamental understanding OD how a players net rating works, given how much you focus on that, and that wouldn't affect a player's net rating like you keep insinuating it does.
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