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re: Non-Pels NBA January Thread
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:20 pm to lsu_baseball11
Posted on 1/9/24 at 10:20 pm to lsu_baseball11
Dallas is not good.
They play zero defense, same as Sacramento, and it’s why both of those teams will be easy to pass and stay ahead in the standings over time.
They play zero defense, same as Sacramento, and it’s why both of those teams will be easy to pass and stay ahead in the standings over time.
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:52 am to MrBarry
You should have all seen the Raptors get absolutely cheated multiple times late against the Lakers last night. The refs would not let LA lose.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:05 am to MetryMauler
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:08 am to Bonkers119
Gotta love it
At some point the league will have to look at the referees, they can’t continue like this.
At some point the league will have to look at the referees, they can’t continue like this.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:16 am to Bonkers119
This is what Willie needs to do about Zion. The league is a fricking joke with their inconsistency. Only way we win is if we blow out mother frickers because the refs will always default to the flopping mother fricker.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:16 am to Soggymoss
Such a clown show. Willie needs to follow this guy's lead
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:20 am to Bonkers119
What an awesome rant.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:26 am to Bonkers119
It wasn’t just free throws, it was every call. The “charge” to wipe out the game tying three-pointer late was very suspect.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:28 am to MrBarry
I guess I need an explanation as to why calling out the officiating is a league fine…they (coaches & players) should be able to say whatever they want. He didn’t threaten anybody nor did he call anyone out by name
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:36 am to MetryMauler
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It wasn’t just free throws, it was every call. The “charge” to wipe out the game tying three-pointer late was very suspect.
I respectfully disagree, the charge call was not very suspect. go back and watch it, that call was complete BS, totally inexcusable. That fourth quarter last night was shades of 2002 WCF Lakers v Kings. Both games left me with zero doubt that the NBA interferes with the result of the game, in 2002 it was to get the lakers to the finals. Last night it was to keep the Lakers in the playoff race. It was a travesty.
I am no raptors fan. but I do unabashedly hate the lakers. And results like this turn my stomach such that I really don’t care to watch nba basketball. It just sucks.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:52 am to GolfIsGood
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How is that possible? How are you going to explain that to me? They [Lakers] had to win tonight? If that’s the case just let us know so we don’t show up for the game. Just give them a win.
What we need is this to be the first of multiple teams speaking out. How many fewer wins do they have per season with fair officiating?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:06 am to TigerinATL
With all of the gambling money out there, I’m starting to think the federal government may end up needing to get involved. I have no idea how you police things, but it’s crooked. Obviously, blatantly, and without question, fixed. And we have been on the wrong side of it many times.
This is right on the heals of the Celtics losing with an over turned foul call where we have slow motion replay showing the shooter get hit in the head.
We all know the “Ja Morant return game” saw JJJ and Ja shoot 27 FT’s. They had a total of 7 in the very next game. Much less the travesty that was the end of the second game.
This is right on the heals of the Celtics losing with an over turned foul call where we have slow motion replay showing the shooter get hit in the head.
We all know the “Ja Morant return game” saw JJJ and Ja shoot 27 FT’s. They had a total of 7 in the very next game. Much less the travesty that was the end of the second game.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:01 am to BigPerm30
quote:In fairness, all that does is make us fans feel good. It's not going to change the calls going forward.
This is what Willie needs to do about Zion.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:06 am to MetryMauler
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It wasn’t just free throws, it was every call. The “charge” to wipe out the game tying three-pointer late was very suspect.
The NBA can’t fine you. You don’t have to be diplomatic and say the charge call at the end was “suspect”. It was a terrible call.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:09 am to LSUgrad88
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The NBA can’t fine you. You don’t have to be diplomatic and say the charge call at the end was “suspect”. It was a terrible call.
Fair enough. It was total horseshite.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:21 am to shel311
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In fairness, all that does is make us fans feel good. It's not going to change the calls going forward.
There certainly is an argument that the efficacy of him calling out the officials may be limited. But it certainly lets the Toronto locker room know it’s coach has the players’ back and will fight for them. There is value in that.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:40 am to cgrand
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I guess I need an explanation as to why calling out the officiating is a league fine…they (coaches & players) should be able to say whatever they want. He didn’t threaten anybody nor did he call anyone out by name
The NBA (for good reason)...is very proactive on criticism of their refs. Last thing they want is for people to start questioning the integrity of their sport. They have had many fairly large scandals in the past...and want to discourage any and all public displays questioning their refs.
Of course, the NBA would prefer certain teams (& certain individual players, for that matter) get the benefit of the doubt...but it's always been that way. You either learn to accept that...or, you are too dumb to understand why it is necessary...or, you move on to another sport that is less "manipulated". I MUCH prefer MLB...it's relatively honest...players play hard, even during regular season.
BUT I can still watch the NBA for the amazingly talented players on display...I just don't put much stock in the regular season & to be honest, I doubt there is a MORE manipulated sport in the world...after Pro Rasslin'.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:04 pm to MrBarry
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Dallas is not good.
They play zero defense, same as Sacramento, and it’s why both of those teams will be easy to pass and stay ahead in the standings over time.
Dallas is on the verge of becoming a VERY serious contender. The NBA wants Doncic to become the face of the NBA and an MVP candidate every year. Mavs have been in the entertainment business lately...but are now moving into becoming a serious NBA team.
Next year or two should be interesting...and Mavs have shown their intentions...by, for instance, taking Lively in the draft and making a HUGE move to try & pickup a RFA like Thybulle over the past few months. NOBODY...but a serious playoff contender, would want to go out of their way, to secure a player like Thybulle. Mavs are on their way up...and about to graduate from the "entertainment" business.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:04 pm to Dinky Mulberry
What i find really irritating about the sport is how it's officiated in general.
The last 2 minute report came out for eht Boston/Indy game and said that the Pacers should not have been shooting FT's to win the game, that Porzingis didn't foul Mathurin. ANd also said that Hield didn't foul Jaylen Brown the play before, a play that was originally called a foul and overturned.
Both plays are clear fouls to me.
Hield Foul on Brown
minimal contact with the head? so b/c it was minimal contact it was ok? You can't touch someones head while they are shooting. period. just like you can't touch someones arm while they are shooting, no matter how minimal. It will 100% affect the shot.
The fact that it was overturned to not a foul, and then the L2M report confrims it wasn't a foul makes me feel like i'm taking crazy pills. I'm all for aggressive play and earning your bucket at the end of games, but that's a foul. It's a very weak foul, but it's a foul.
AND ON TOP OF THE FOUL, IT WAS A FRICKING TRAVEL!!!!!
Porzingis foul on Mathurin
incidental arm contact? well then it's a foul.
On top of the fact that he's in his face and doesn't provide him any room to land on his jump shot as he bumps his legs as well. It's a clear foul.
The NBA thinks niether of those plays are fouls.
The last 2 minute report came out for eht Boston/Indy game and said that the Pacers should not have been shooting FT's to win the game, that Porzingis didn't foul Mathurin. ANd also said that Hield didn't foul Jaylen Brown the play before, a play that was originally called a foul and overturned.
Both plays are clear fouls to me.
Hield Foul on Brown
quote:
The NBA's report deemed the decision to overturn the call on the floor correct, stating that Buddy Hield made "minimal contact" with Brown's head.
minimal contact with the head? so b/c it was minimal contact it was ok? You can't touch someones head while they are shooting. period. just like you can't touch someones arm while they are shooting, no matter how minimal. It will 100% affect the shot.
The fact that it was overturned to not a foul, and then the L2M report confrims it wasn't a foul makes me feel like i'm taking crazy pills. I'm all for aggressive play and earning your bucket at the end of games, but that's a foul. It's a very weak foul, but it's a foul.
AND ON TOP OF THE FOUL, IT WAS A FRICKING TRAVEL!!!!!
Porzingis foul on Mathurin
quote:
The report states that Porzingis was above the ball and legally contested the shot, "with some incidental arm contact occurring concurrent with the block." Officials reviewed whether the call was made before the clock expired, but the foul itself was not reviewable.
incidental arm contact? well then it's a foul.
On top of the fact that he's in his face and doesn't provide him any room to land on his jump shot as he bumps his legs as well. It's a clear foul.
The NBA thinks niether of those plays are fouls.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:02 pm to MrBarry
The fix isn’t complicated. They just don’t want it. The refs need to stay out of the game.
We all know there was a point of emphasis last year to not call fouls and the play was great. Harden looked terrible. And then for some reason they went right back to normal. We all know the playoffs are called differently. Just do that all the time. But they don’t/wont. Because IMO, they are intentionally manipulating the games.
And if it goes to replay, you do not change a call unless it is obvious. This has been the case for over a decade in sports. It’s not hard. If there is actual contact, the foul stands and you move on. If they literally don’t touch the guy like the foul they called on us against Reaves, then you overturn it.
Again, not the outcome they are trying to get.
We all know there was a point of emphasis last year to not call fouls and the play was great. Harden looked terrible. And then for some reason they went right back to normal. We all know the playoffs are called differently. Just do that all the time. But they don’t/wont. Because IMO, they are intentionally manipulating the games.
And if it goes to replay, you do not change a call unless it is obvious. This has been the case for over a decade in sports. It’s not hard. If there is actual contact, the foul stands and you move on. If they literally don’t touch the guy like the foul they called on us against Reaves, then you overturn it.
Again, not the outcome they are trying to get.
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