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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
Joel on radio with Geltz just proposed a 2 + 1 with it being a PO at $25M/yr.
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Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:18 pm to NOFOX
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Joel on radio with Geltz just proposed a 2 + 1 with it being a PO at $25M/yr.
is it legal for a third year PO to be less than previous year's salary?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:27 pm to cgrand
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is it legal for a third year PO to be less than previous year's salary?
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that you can increase or decrease yearly salary by 8% if it's your own free agent, or 5% if you're signing a free agent from another team.
If he's proposing a 2+1 with the third year being 25m, he's probably just proposing 3 years/75 mil, rather than front loading and decreasing. I didn't hear the segment though.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:41 pm to Epic Cajun
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you can increase or decrease yearly salary by 8%
Correct the limit goes both ways for increases and decreases LINK
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If he's proposing a 2+1 with the third year being 25m, he's probably just proposing 3 years/75 mil, rather than front loading and decreasing.
I'm going to interpret this another way. Rather than 3/$75, perhaps it's 3/$90 but only $25 million guaranteed in the last year. Sort of the dual opt out like they did with Asik. I'll be impressed if they sign him for less than the max, but I won't believe it until I see it.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:44 pm to TigerinATL
I think Dallas will offer the max, and Dell will end up doing the same.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:49 pm to TigerinATL
Joel was proposing a 3/$75M with a pure player option on the 3rd year.
I believe he’s connected enough to have a good feel for what the Pels are thinking and they want to be in that $25Mish range for Boogie.
I believe he’s connected enough to have a good feel for what the Pels are thinking and they want to be in that $25Mish range for Boogie.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:01 pm to NOFOX
I could see Dell talking to Cousins about taking $25M b/c that's what AD and Jrue make.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
I would be happy with 2+1 at 3/75.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:08 pm to Epic Cajun
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I would be happy with 2+1 at 3/75.
I'd be ecstatic with that. There's no way Cousins accepts that i would think.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:42 pm to CocoLoco
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Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
I think Dallas will offer the max
First Rondo, then Nerlens Noel. Even if Boogie didn't have an Achilles injury they'd be nuts to risk a max on Boogie and Carlisle being a good match after spending a year and a half with laid back Uncle Al.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 3:53 pm to TigerinATL
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First Rondo, then Nerlens Noel. Even if Boogie didn't have an Achilles injury they'd be nuts to risk a max on Boogie and Carlisle being a good match after spending a year and a half with laid back Uncle Al.
I agree. They have a negative experience with a good guy with an achilles injury. They have negative experiences with guys with attitudes. I cannot imagin they want to get involved with a guy with an achilles injury and an atittude. I think the Dallas interest is overblown. I think Dallas goes for Randle or Capela first.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:07 pm to NOFOX
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I think the Dallas interest is overblown
i'll go farther than that and say the league-wide interest in cousins is overblown
ANYBODY could have traded for him at the deadline last year, pels were the only ones who offered a decent deal. sacto is glad he's gone, and despite the relative success he had here, i dont think theres a team out there saying "we've got to add boogie"
couple THAT with a devastating multi-year injury, and i think his phone is gonna be quiet. pels will never have this kind of leverage over a "star" again, they need to stay firm
zach lowe, on simmons podcast:
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:53 pm to LtKumar
ok I'm pretty certain I'm on the same page now.
essentially letting Boogie walk keeps us below the apron while giving the team a chance to land some role players. A Boogie sign-and-trade for a player that makes as much as Otto Porter keeps us below the apron if they also dump Solo & Ajinca, but they'd also have to utilize every asset they have. They could also stay under the apron with a Boogie sign-and-trade if they take back no more than $17 mil
essentially letting Boogie walk keeps us below the apron while giving the team a chance to land some role players. A Boogie sign-and-trade for a player that makes as much as Otto Porter keeps us below the apron if they also dump Solo & Ajinca, but they'd also have to utilize every asset they have. They could also stay under the apron with a Boogie sign-and-trade if they take back no more than $17 mil
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:10 pm to DeionDeion
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A Boogie sign-and-trade for a player that makes as much as Otto Porter keeps us below the apron if they also dump Solo & Ajinca, but they'd also have to utilize every asset they have.
They don't have to use the tax payer MLE, and could make moves to get below the tax in this scenario by probably just moving Ajinca and maybe Miller. This would be dependent upon how the Pels/Wiz/Porter handle his trade kicker, though.
ETA: Also, being a tax team is not determined at the beginning of the season. So, you could go into the season looking like a tax team, but then shed salary and fall below the tax.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:00 pm to cgrand
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pels will never have this kind of leverage over a "star" again, they need to stay firm
Agree but if he has to begrudgingly take our offer highly likely the attitude issues creep back up.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:29 pm to saintsfan22
then at least it’s a tradeable deal
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:18 am to cgrand
I think the offseason will result in Boogie and Rondo coming back and us using the Taxpayer MLE on someone(s). Teddy's been dusting off the Tyresus bandwagon and I think I'm ready to hop back on it.
With Rondo and Jrue he'd finally be able to slot into the 6th man role where he could be controlled better. And if Cousins can buy into Boring Basketball why can't Tyreke? It might take a few years of being in that role to break his worst habits but at the end of 2 years he might have bought in enough for him to be Rondo's successor. Sign him to a 2 + 1 and at the end of 2 years you have Early Bird Rights on him meaning you can go up to and only up to the MLE to resign him, so he couldn't leverage the Pels into a big payday to keep him. Plus he'll be 30 by then so I don't think any team would be looking to throw more than the MLE at him.
Will the Pels be able to find a better Rondo replacement than a matured/reformed/improved Tyreke locked in on a reasonable contract?
With Rondo and Jrue he'd finally be able to slot into the 6th man role where he could be controlled better. And if Cousins can buy into Boring Basketball why can't Tyreke? It might take a few years of being in that role to break his worst habits but at the end of 2 years he might have bought in enough for him to be Rondo's successor. Sign him to a 2 + 1 and at the end of 2 years you have Early Bird Rights on him meaning you can go up to and only up to the MLE to resign him, so he couldn't leverage the Pels into a big payday to keep him. Plus he'll be 30 by then so I don't think any team would be looking to throw more than the MLE at him.
Will the Pels be able to find a better Rondo replacement than a matured/reformed/improved Tyreke locked in on a reasonable contract?
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 8:20 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:39 am to TigerinATL
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I think the offseason will result in Boogie and Rondo coming back and us using the Taxpayer MLE on someone(s). Teddy's been dusting off the Tyresus bandwagon and I think I'm ready to hop back on it.
With Rondo and Jrue he'd finally be able to slot into the 6th man role where he could be controlled better. And if Cousins can buy into Boring Basketball why can't Tyreke? It might take a few years of being in that role to break his worst habits but at the end of 2 years he might have bought in enough for him to be Rondo's successor. Sign him to a 2 + 1 and at the end of 2 years you have Early Bird Rights on him meaning you can go up to and only up to the MLE to resign him, so he couldn't leverage the Pels into a big payday to keep him. Plus he'll be 30 by then so I don't think any team would be looking to throw more than the MLE at him.
Will the Pels be able to find a better Rondo replacement than a matured/reformed/improved Tyreke locked in on a reasonable contract?
I was listening to a podcast yesterday, I'm not sure which one but whoever it was wasn't sure that a team could land Tyreke with the full MLE.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:58 am to Epic Cajun
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whoever it was wasn't sure that a team could land Tyreke with the full MLE.
why not?
thats all the grizz can pay him...
i know reke has a history in memphis but he also has a history here and with AD. if you are him, why would you go back to a rebuilding team when you can play here or elsewhere for the same money, and win
Posted on 5/23/18 at 9:55 am to cgrand
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why not?
thats all the grizz can pay him...
I suppose they thought that he would get more than that on the open market. As I said, I don't remember who it was that even mentioned it. It might have been Duncan and Leroux, or it might have been Lowe.
I don't agree that he'll get more than the MLE, but I think he may get more than the tax payer MLE.
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