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Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:06 pm to hendersonshands
Same.
However I think this may have been leaked to Duncan to show "Hey we were serious about those other interviews and REALLY considered this other guy, but Ferry was just the best choice!"
All part of the sales job that seems to be going on right now. Very transparent.
However I think this may have been leaked to Duncan to show "Hey we were serious about those other interviews and REALLY considered this other guy, but Ferry was just the best choice!"
All part of the sales job that seems to be going on right now. Very transparent.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:09 pm to Fun Bunch
I just don't see how they can talk all that shite about changing the whole structure and perception of the organization and then make an inside hire.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:10 pm to Fun Bunch
OK, now that is an answer I can get behind.
Between him cherry picking his next job and demanding control, that’s the qualities we need in a GM.
Between him cherry picking his next job and demanding control, that’s the qualities we need in a GM.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 1:13 pm to hendersonshands
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I just don't see how they can talk all that shite about changing the whole structure and perception of the organization and then make an inside hire.
It is a hilariously Total Pels Move, but I guess the only thing that matters is what he does in the long run. Perception changes if he does a good job.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:09 pm to Fun Bunch
look at this way...
ferry is a step up from demps. as others have said if he'd not been an advisor here for the past few years, his candidacy would be viewed much differently
i'm just happy they've found someone competant
ferry is a step up from demps. as others have said if he'd not been an advisor here for the past few years, his candidacy would be viewed much differently
i'm just happy they've found someone competant
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:10 pm to Crewz
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Because other guys interviewed poorly, lack the experience the brass is looking for, and/or didn't seem passionate about wanting the job. Ferry will say yes to the job. He has the experience they are comfortable with, and he didn't come off like a know it all, like one of the candidates did. He also is familiar with some of the behind the scenes AD trade convos with teams like the Celtics and Knicks, along the exact offers from the Lakers, so he wouldn't have to start from scratch there. He is also familiar with current staff - both coaches and front office so those departments wouldn't have to be a total rebuild. I would be shocked if Ferry didn't get either President or GM (or both). I think they went into this hoping to keep Ferry and get another guy but after interviews, they saw that option as unlikely. So, I think they just go with Ferry
Langdon - lacked experience
Griffin - lacked interest, he’s going elsewhere
Shepard - Wizards
Harris - didn’t interview well and not experienced, he’s piggybacking in GSW
Rozas - lack of interest, he wants a perfect situation after how Dallas played out, and Pels is not a perfect situation
So we are stuck with Ferry - the safe choice we are comfortable with. Disgusting
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:14 pm to Upperdecker
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and Pels is not a perfect situation
just can't stand hearing this. Saints is the class of the NFL and people act like the pelicans are some different breed of organization.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:14 pm to cgrand
quote:I agree it would be looked at differently. However, it begs the question of how he can be seen as the best candidate if he was advising Demps on the moves that were made to create this current team. It at least gives the perception that things will not change. Maybe management can be convinced that Demps did not listen to his advice or that he was only a part of the positive transactions? I am sure there is a lot more going on behind the scenes that we do not see, so it will be up to management to "sell" him to the fan base as a change from the past.
look at this way...
ferry is a step up from demps. as others have said if he'd not been an advisor here for the past few years, his candidacy would be viewed much differently
i'm just happy they've found someone competant
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:21 pm to Chad504boy
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just can't stand hearing this. Saints is the class of the NFL and people act like the pelicans are some different breed of organization.
NFL market is way different from the NBA market. Stars don’t want to go to small markets in the NBA, but they will in the NFL. The NBA is also much more dependent on stars
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:22 pm to NOSHAU
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However, it begs the question of how he can be seen as the best candidate if he was advising Demps on the moves that were made to create this current team.
i do not know, but i would guess, that ferry's influence over demps' decisions has been vastly overstated
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:26 pm to cgrand
quote:As I read all the stories about his demands he had in his contract as a GM previously and the expectations that he will do the same here, I find it hard to believe that he would stay in an advisory role if his advice was being ignored or he did not have some sort of influence in decisions being made.
i do not know, but i would guess, that ferry's influence over demps' decisions has been vastly overstated
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:28 pm to cgrand
Most of the really dumb moves that shaped this team were pre-Ferry (Tyreke) or known to be due to AD’s preferences (Asik and Ajinca to play the 5).
Solo’s contract is the real question mark because that comes around the same time Ferry joined the front office.
Solo’s contract is the real question mark because that comes around the same time Ferry joined the front office.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:30 pm to hendersonshands
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If it's those two, give me Rosas. At least I know it will be something different.
Demps came from the Spurs org. This wouldn't be very different at all.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:31 pm to NOSHAU
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I find it hard to believe that he would stay in an advisory role if his advice was being ignored or he did not have some sort of influence in decisions being made.
why?
he was not the face of the franchise
he had no accountability for success or failure
he lived three states away
he was still being paid by ATL
basically, it was a part-time gig to stay engaged for just such a situation as this. there was (i am speculating) literally no risk
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:40 pm to Chad504boy
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just can't stand hearing this.
Who cares?
quote:
Saints is the class of the NFL
what does that have to do with the Pelicans?
quote:
people act like the pelicans are some different breed of organization.
They are.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 2:42 pm to cgrand
quote:Plenty of risk. This was a stepping stone to get back in the GM game in the NBA. He did not take the job as a hobby. His ego did not go away such that he was just sitting around doing nothing.
why?
he was not the face of the franchise
he had no accountability for success or failure
he lived three states away
he was still being paid by ATL
basically, it was a part-time gig to stay engaged for just such a situation as this. there was (i am speculating) literally no risk
Regardless, if selected, I hope he has what it takes to turn this organization around.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:11 pm to NOSHAU
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I find it hard to believe that he would stay in an advisory role if his advice was being ignored or he did not have some sort of influence in decisions being made.
I'd say the Solomon Hill contract is the only glaring mistake you can point at in the Demps/Ferry era. Demps wanted to draft Solo years earlier so there probably was no talking him down from it. Also Ferry got the Consultant position because he and Demps were already chummy and he was giving feedback unofficially. I assume the reason they made the arrangement official was because things went badly enough for Loomis to tell Demps to find his own Jeff Ireland if he wanted to keep his job.
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