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Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:56 am to RUFshreve
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Very encouraging seeing more (potentially) elite talent at guard in this class.
Agreed
As long as the Pels don’t screw around and lose their pick, the chances just got better that there will be a solid guard choice available to us between 4 to 14.
Would love to see Sharpe play because one of the big questions is his defensive iq and aptitude, also I always like to see a jump shot against higher competition to see what translates, see: Hardy…but some rumors are he might not suit up at all. Which is hard to imagine but not impossible given how things transpired
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 5:57 am
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:41 am to Bronc
All I've seen of him are highlight videos and such on YouTube, but the kid looks insanely skilled for someone so young. Crazy athlete, elite finisher at the rim and his shot looked good too.
Really wish we could see him against college competition also, but if he somehow fell to us and we were outside the top 4, you'd have to take him. That's a gamble with elite upside. I didn't realize he was ranked the #1 prospect for the 2023 draft class. If you can get that at 5 or later, you just gotta take that gamble. Idc if he doesn't help us win for a few years, you just can't pass on that potential. You either take him and let him develop or you trade him for an all-star that fits our core.
Really wish we could see him against college competition also, but if he somehow fell to us and we were outside the top 4, you'd have to take him. That's a gamble with elite upside. I didn't realize he was ranked the #1 prospect for the 2023 draft class. If you can get that at 5 or later, you just gotta take that gamble. Idc if he doesn't help us win for a few years, you just can't pass on that potential. You either take him and let him develop or you trade him for an all-star that fits our core.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:55 am to RUFshreve
Yea I really hope he plays before he declares. Andrew Wiggins looked like the next Jordan in these hype videos too until he played in college and showed zero alpha mentality.
He has the physical tools. He just needs to display the mentality of an alpha to cement his status as the top prospect.
He has the physical tools. He just needs to display the mentality of an alpha to cement his status as the top prospect.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:08 am to supe12sta12z
And almost on cue, every year, we get these guys that are declared top 5, 3, or 1 in high school that get to college, or the G League, and turns out certain things arent translating like they looked like they would on High School gametape.
Guy looks like the real deal, still, would like to see him get some high level play in....which also may be why he tries not to play, because if he is going top 6 basically regardless, might not be the best idea to risk that. End up in a Hardy situation where you go from top 3 projected pick to now some mocks have him in the mid to late teens.
Guy looks like the real deal, still, would like to see him get some high level play in....which also may be why he tries not to play, because if he is going top 6 basically regardless, might not be the best idea to risk that. End up in a Hardy situation where you go from top 3 projected pick to now some mocks have him in the mid to late teens.
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:53 pm to Pelicans4Real
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Put Sharpe in that top tier right away. The Pelicans can't afford to pass on him.
According to his mentor, they knew about this prior to the media release and this doesn't change his plan to play in Kentucky next season.
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Washington said that plan has yet to change. He pushed back against the idea that Sharpe would sit out the remainder of this season and then jump to the 2022 NBA Draft without ever playing for the Wildcats, noting that the five-star shooting guard declined a $3 million package to play in the G League this season — among other, even more lucrative pro offers — so he could come to Lexington instead. LINK
This doesn't mean that the plan can't change but it doesn't sound like he's in a rush to get to the league. Sounds like they're thinking long-term and currently think long-term is a year at Kentucky. He even admits that if Calipari puts him in this season and he balls out then he'll probably leave but weirdly that incentives UK to not play him since, according to his mentor, Sharpe won't sit on the bench all season and then go to the league.
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 6:14 pm to hugo_boss
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weirdly that incentives UK to not play him since
no it doesnt. UK fans and Calipati want to win now.
your quoted bit makes no sense. at all.
calipari plays who can.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:20 pm to CelticDog
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no it doesnt. UK fans and Calipati want to win now.
your quoted bit makes no sense. at all.
calipari plays who can.
What part doesn't make sense from the quoted part? Or are you talking about my inference? There's no way it doesn't incentivize them to hold him out. Now it may not incentivize them enough and they may not do it because, as you said, Cal wants to win now and not worry about next season. That doesn't mean that Sharpe saying he isn't pressing to play this season and if he doesn't play this season he will return next season, doesn't make not playing him at least a little more appealing. Even if it only moved the needle from 0% chance of not playing him to 5% chance of not playing him, I think it at least became more of an option than it would have been if he said he was leaving regardless.
Posted on 1/22/22 at 5:54 am to hugo_boss
Re Lakers first pick next year
I had been meaning to write and ask this, and then found several references to our relationship to the Laker's first round pick next year. We all assume it defaults to Memphis, but as I read several of your posts, it appears that if the
Lakers fall into one of the ten worst teams - which I believe could happen - we get it back. My question then becomes, what do we do to satisfy our obligation to Memphis ?
Many, many thanks folks !
I had been meaning to write and ask this, and then found several references to our relationship to the Laker's first round pick next year. We all assume it defaults to Memphis, but as I read several of your posts, it appears that if the
Lakers fall into one of the ten worst teams - which I believe could happen - we get it back. My question then becomes, what do we do to satisfy our obligation to Memphis ?
Many, many thanks folks !
Posted on 1/22/22 at 7:34 am to Purpose16
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CLE (via ATL to NOP) if LAL does not convey 1st round pick to MEM in 2022
Cleveland 2nd round pick to memphis if lakers pick goes to pels (1 to 10th pick after lottery).
11 to 30 first to memphis.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:08 am to CelticDog
Thanks CelticDog ... very helpful.
Have a great day !
Have a great day !
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:34 am to hugo_boss
I would bet that whatever Sharpe says now will not be what he is saying near the end of the season.
Unless he truly does not feel he is ready, the economics of coming out are just too strong, even with endorsements and such, to stay at Kentucky another year. Especially if he is expected to go top 5.
Unless he truly does not feel he is ready, the economics of coming out are just too strong, even with endorsements and such, to stay at Kentucky another year. Especially if he is expected to go top 5.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 1:58 pm to Bronc
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I would bet that whatever Sharpe says now will not be what he is saying near the end of the season.
Unless he truly does not feel he is ready, the economics of coming out are just too strong, even with endorsements and such, to stay at Kentucky another year. Especially if he is expected to go top 5.
You could be correct. He even said that if Sharpe plays and plays well that he would probably leave. It sounds like they have an actual plan though. Like he said, if they were concerned just about money, he could have went to the G League and got paid. They are trying to set him up to best be able to get a big 2nd contract and currently they feel like a full season playing at UK is the way to do it. They don't want him to skip steps and flame out. It all could be fluff or their stance may change but I really came away impressed with the mentor and believing that Sharpe has strong people in his corner. Most people would tell him to secure the money 1st because you never knows what could happen but it's refreshing to see someone taking such a long-term view and regardless of which direction he goes, a lot of thought will be put into it.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 9:15 pm to hugo_boss
I will never understand these elite guard prospects going to Kentucky. We see it every year and every year, those guard prospects underperformed and their draft stock plummeted as a result. Then they go to the league and play great.
I mean it's clear to anyone with eyes that Cal doesn't put them in a situation to succeed, so why do these elite guards keep going there? He should go pro while his stock is high.
I mean it's clear to anyone with eyes that Cal doesn't put them in a situation to succeed, so why do these elite guards keep going there? He should go pro while his stock is high.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 9:24 pm to RUFshreve
the answer that immediately comes to mind to me is probably money and kickbacks. Which Cal has been caught up a lot in the past. Then reputation of Coach Cal.
It’s the oil that greases much of the league that no one talks about unless a scandal surfaces. Even in this new era I’m sure it’s not going away…and may just get worse
And I would bet a place like Kentucky that has such clout and donor strength has to be near the top of what is out there on offer.
It’s the oil that greases much of the league that no one talks about unless a scandal surfaces. Even in this new era I’m sure it’s not going away…and may just get worse
And I would bet a place like Kentucky that has such clout and donor strength has to be near the top of what is out there on offer.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 9:34 pm to Bronc
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the answer that immediately comes to mind to me is probably money and kickbacks. Which Cal has been caught up a lot in the past. Then reputation of Coach Cal.
It’s the oil that greases much of the league that no one talks about unless a scandal surfaces. Even in this new era I’m sure it’s not going away…and may just get worse
And I would bet a place like Kentucky that has such clout and donor strength has to be near the top of what is out there on offer.
I don't think kickbacks matter as much anymore, especially with the NLE and the G League. I think it's because despite us viewing it as their guards falling in the draft, they still get drafted and look prepared when they get to the league. If you're thinking long-term and the 2nd contract is the one you're focused on then I can see the appeal.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:15 pm to hugo_boss
Latest Mock from Jonathan Givony. I'm sure this will change a lot before the draft, but these are probably many of the names we'd be considering with a top 10 pick.
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Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress 2h
New 2022 mock draft and stock watch on ESPN, with @Mike_Schmitz . Here's the top-10. Full 58-pick breakdown with projected NBA standings: LINK
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:46 pm to TigerinATL
--Top 10 pick from the Lakers?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:47 pm to TigerinATL
we need an elite guard on this team so bad
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:59 pm to Cheesy Beaver
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we need an elite guard on this team so bad
Imagine a world where we end up with picks #2 and #4.
Who should we take?
Trading back isn't the greatest idea and hasn't worked our well.
Do we take one of the big 4 and trade Zion? Or do we hope they can play together?
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