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re: tOfficial NBA Draft Rumor Thread
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:02 am to teke184
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:02 am to teke184
People think it’s nba2k or some shite like that.
We currently have a rotation of 8 players which includes CJ, Herb, BI, Zion,JV, Alvarado, Trey, and Nance right now. Where are all these minutes going to come from?
We currently have a rotation of 8 players which includes CJ, Herb, BI, Zion,JV, Alvarado, Trey, and Nance right now. Where are all these minutes going to come from?
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:02 am to supe12sta12z
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I’d much rather have Herb on the court who is head and shoulders above Cam on defense and it’s not even close
so would I, which is why i said he'd be coming off the bench and playing with Trey.
quote:
You act like Cam is Bridges on defense or something
I did not, but he's not some terrible defender. He's more than capable of being adequate in a constantly switching defensive scheme. I'm not asking him to guard Durant.
quote:
He’s a spot up shooter with no creation or handles.
He's an elite spot up shooter. we don't need him to create. We need him to knock down wide open 3's at a very high rate when teams are building a wall against Zion. We dont' need JJ Redick or the good Duncan Robinson running around trying to get open for 3. Zion will give them multiple wide open shots every game. I don't want him doing anything else. If you're open for 3, hit the shot. If you're not open, then you're doing your job by pulling a defender out of the paint making it easier on Zion and BI.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:06 am to PELsu
I think most people agree that Cam is a good fit for the roster.
I would just prefer a cost controlled player for 4-5 years that we develop given the cap crunch coming up.
That is a much more responsible decision.
I would just prefer a cost controlled player for 4-5 years that we develop given the cap crunch coming up.
That is a much more responsible decision.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:08 am to Fun Bunch
jake:
quote:
Draft position over/unders per @betonline_ag
Mathurin: 6.5
Daniels: 7.5
Sharpe: 8
Sochan: 12.5
Dieng: 14
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:09 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
I think most people agree that Cam is a good fit for the roster.
I would just prefer a cost controlled player for 4-5 years that we develop given the cap crunch coming up.
That is a much more responsible decision.
Completely agree and not sure how I see it working. But if we could somehow swing a deal with Charlotte for their two firsts, keep a first to draft a cost controlled player and get Cam for one year plus his match rights, then it gets interesting for me.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:09 am to cgrand
Which means everyone around the league believes someone is moving up for Sharpe at 7 or 8, and Daniels will be drafted in the other spot.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:15 am to supe12sta12z
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We currently have a rotation of 8 players which includes CJ, Herb, BI, Zion,JV, Alvarado, Trey, and Nance right now. Where are all these minutes going to come from?
It can be 9.
There's 240 mpg to dole out.
BI 34
Zion 34
CJ 32
There's 100 right there. I don't want JV playing 30mpg every night. Some nights he needs to play 34, some nights he needs to play 20.
Herb 30
JV 26
Nance 22
Trey 23
Cam 23
Jose 16
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:18 am to TeddyPadillac
And that’s with no injuries. Which this team needs to stop acting like is a possible situation. We WILL lose players for significant time.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to PELsu
Yep.
Three certainties in life. Death, taxes, wounded Pelicans.
Three certainties in life. Death, taxes, wounded Pelicans.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to PELsu
Ok, I will repeat again. We all think Cam is a good player and a good fit.
We are simply talking about allocation of future cap space, and I don't think its wise.
We have our stars and high paid players (and future high paid players) already on roster.
We need to continuously bring in cost controlled players.
We are simply talking about allocation of future cap space, and I don't think its wise.
We have our stars and high paid players (and future high paid players) already on roster.
We need to continuously bring in cost controlled players.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:26 am to Fun Bunch
I don’t understand what you are disagreeing with. I haven’t said anything opposite of this. I don’t want to leave this week without a cost controlled player. I just may be willing to take a lower drafted cost controlled player if our main guys aren’t there and we get Cam for a year plus possibly more in a future sign and trade. There is a world where that makes sense but it’s difficult to get to.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:31 am to PELsu
Phoenix doesn't have a pick to give us in this draft.
Unless you are talking about our own 2nds
Unless you are talking about our own 2nds
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:41 am to PELsu
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Completely agree and not sure how I see it working. But if we could somehow swing a deal with Charlotte for their two firsts, keep a first to draft a cost controlled player and get Cam for one year plus his match rights, then it gets interesting for me.
Sorry bunchie, think you may have missed this one. I’m not saying anything is likely, in fact exact opposite. And there would need to be extra logistics, maybe Hayes, maybe seconds. I’m just saying the world it makes sense to me is if we traded back to ensure that cost controlled player also. I don’t think anyone trades the #8 pick in the draft for one season. I’m pretty sure no one anywhere has said that’s a good idea.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
Griff should have to be blown away to move from that 8th pick. We don't exactly need more draft capital at the expense of a top 8 pick. We don't need another player that wants close to max money. What we need is a top 8 draft pick on a top 8 draft pick's deal. And that's exactly what we got. We don't have any massive contracts we need to unload. Everyone trying to get rid of Graham, his contract isn't that bad, other teams could see value in it (cough: Lakers) and we might be able to get off of it easier than you'd think, if that's our choice.
We've rarely had chemistry this good in this franchise's time here. I'll go back to what I said originally, we'd need to be blown away to move off 8. Pick the best player available and continue to grow the chemistry.
We've rarely had chemistry this good in this franchise's time here. I'll go back to what I said originally, we'd need to be blown away to move off 8. Pick the best player available and continue to grow the chemistry.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
We are simply talking about allocation of future cap space, and I don't think its wise.
I think we'd be fine.
We'll be fine this year regardless.
the tax is going to be near $150M, and its going to go up every single year.
Yes we'll have to pay Zion and Cam, but you can easily get rid of DG and Jax and Temple, which is $23.5M
If you do the Phoenix deal, you could probably send Jax to Orlando for picks #32 and #35, and if we wanted to move into the late 1st we could, or we could just draft those two guys and have them battle it out for the 15th roster spot, and if they are both good enough, then you find somewhere for Temple or DG to go now.
We'll end up around $142M in salaries this year if we did those trades sending out Jax to Orlando and bringing Cam. We'd have one open roster spot this year for those 2 2nd round picks. The following year you'd be adding probably $28M between Cam and Zion, and getting rid of $16M between DG and Temple. and if you wanted to move Kira for a minimum guy, you could save another $4M. You'd still be under the tax after this year with Zion/Cam getting paid.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:08 pm to Fun Bunch
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Jake Fischer
@JakeLFischer
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2m
There’s been consistent word among league personnel of Washington exploring various trade options for a veteran point guard with packages around the No. 10 pick.
Pels have a PG that may interest them
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:10 pm to Fun Bunch
Bro if we leveraged DG into the 10th pick id never say a bad thing about him ever again.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:11 pm to 50_Tiger
I think it would be more like the oft rumored
8+Graham
10+KCP
or some variation thereof.
8+Graham
10+KCP
or some variation thereof.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:16 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
I think it would be more like the oft rumored
8+Graham
10+KCP
or some variation thereof.
I'd be all for that if Sochan or Daniels is there at 10. Otherwise no.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 2:17 pm to Fun Bunch
Re: Cam Johnson:
MM proposed this:
Yes or no?
MM proposed this:
quote:
Charlotte gets 8 and Hayes
Suns get Temple, 15, and 53 (to sell to help pay Ayton), Celtics 2024 2nd via Hornets
Pelicans get Cam Johnson, 13, 41
Yes or no?
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