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Trey Murphy Propaganda Stat of the Day

Posted on 7/14/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8761 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 2:51 pm
Trey Murphy had the 4th best effective field goal percentage among non-centers last year.

2 of the 3 non-centers ahead of him? Steph Curry and Kevin Durant, probably 2 of the top 10 offensive players in the history of the NBA.

This was just his 2nd season in the league...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 2:56 pm to
Give me all the Trey propoganda!!!

That is pretty amazing.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2325 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 3:37 pm to
OK...let's get real...it's not rocket surgery. He's a follower of the Nate Oats' (& many others) "3&3" offensive philosophy. Which is: Basically shoot ONLY 3-pters & 3 footers. Your efg% will be quite nice.

Trey's efg% from last year:
From 3-pt line...61.2%...62.1% of his shots were from here
From 0-3'...75.9%...20.3% of his shots were from here
From 3-10'...49.5%...12.9% of his shots were from here
From 10-16'...18.8%...2% of his shots were from here
From 16-3-pt line...36.4%...2.8% of his shots were from here

Do the math...and somebody PLEASE show these numbers to BI.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Pelicans15
Bossier
Member since Mar 2019
938 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 3:39 pm to
Ok. Who is the third non center ahead of him?
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 3:53 pm to
Ingram does need to shoot more 3’s, but honestly his mid range game is very useful in the playoffs if we ever get there.

Nuanced offenses that score from all 3 levels tend to do better in the playoffs Vs the ones that just spray 3’a and pray.

I mean Hell, we actually saw this happen to Bama in college basketball during March Madness as well. They went cold from outside and an inferior team beat them.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 3:56 pm to
Midrange is very necessary, mostly late in the shot clock. Just need more 3s and equally as important imo, more attacking at the rim from BI.

He can always get any Midrange shot he wants, so it makes sense to try and get the higher efficiency shot until later in the clock when you can fall back on the Midrange game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78957 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 3:59 pm to
i’m a Trey Murphy believer
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2325 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 4:06 pm to
Yep...always a place for a solid midrange shot...just PLEASE don't make it too much of a habit. I especially like any BI midrange shot over his 3-pt shot...on the final shot of the game...when down 1 point (G)

BTW: Another piece of worthless info...the MOST likely shots to be rebounded by the offensive team after a miss are:
You guessed it...
The missed 0-3' shot is #1
The missed 3-pt shot is #2 (those looong offensive rebounds add up...ask CJ)
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:03 pm to
Out of curiosity, where is this stat coming from?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112708 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Out of curiosity, where is this stat coming from?
You can find it on Basketball Reference.

Kenyon Martin Jr was #1 for non centers.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2325 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Kenyon Martin Jr was #1 for non centers.


Great site. KMJ is a bit of an oddity for a high efg% guy...not a great 3-pt shooter but takes almost NO shots from...10-16' or 16-3-pt line...and he hammers that 0-3' at a tad over 80%. A bit odd for somebody only 6'6" or so.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 5:27 pm
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:22 pm to
Is this stat calculated differently everywhere? Every stat site has different rankings.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
2325 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Is this stat calculated differently everywhere? Every stat site has different rankings.


Probably just a case of sites having different "minimum standards" when it comes to "rankings". Number of required minutes played, shots taken...etc...in order to qualify for a particular ranking.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 5:37 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

I especially like any BI midrange shot over his 3-pt shot...on the final shot of the game...when down 1 point (G)


He was fouled.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8761 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Great site. KMJ is a bit of an oddity for a high efg% guy...not a great 3-pt shooter but takes almost NO shots from...10-16' or 16-3-pt line...and he hammers that 0-3' at a tad over 80%. A bit odd for somebody only 6'6" or so.


Yea he does a ton of cutting in the half court and rim running in transition. Obviously he’s not exactly a superstar so I left him out of OP for a reason lol. But I do think this reflects well on him and probably poorly on Houston, who let him go for a song.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8761 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Probably just a case of sites having different "minimum standards" when it comes to "rankings". Number of required minutes played, shots taken...etc...in order to qualify for a particular ranking


Yea, the percentage itself shouldn’t change depending on the site unless garbage time has been filtered out (I believe Cleaning the Glass does this). But the Basketball Reference lists seems like it includes pretty much only starters and high minute bench guys, which I think is a good way to look at things.

Just a cool way to look at Trey’s production last year, really.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31591 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:00 pm to
Trey will be the best player on this team in two years. Bookmark this shite.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:03 pm to
I love Trey, but the only way that happens is if we trade BI and Zion and get underwhelming returns for them.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Trey will be the best player on this team in two years. Bookmark this shite.


It’s an exciting thought for sure.

He’s a better young Robert Horry in theory. All Star potential. He’s going to benefit from 3 guys getting him the ball, too.
I see him as a better Rashard Lewis or even a Klay like role.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:53 am to
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From 16-3-pt line...36.4%...2.8% of his shots were from here


I wonder how many of these were a toe on the line.
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