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re: Draft Prospects Thread
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:21 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:21 pm to Lester Earl
Kellen Moore is at Miami's pro day today.
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:09 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:29 pm to GynoSandberg
well, that sends mixed messages to me.
At least he impressed with what he did do.
He's a physical player who loves to mix it up and has to rely on technique/leverage. Basically, what I see he is a pain the arse to block.
I'm guessing that is what teams are talking to him about. Mainly about the things he can control.
at 6'2 263 would it be crazy to use him as more of an interior player? He's constantly in a four-point stance when you watch him play. Where would Staley line him up in this defense? Just questions that I'd love to be a fly on the wall for.
At least he impressed with what he did do.
He's a physical player who loves to mix it up and has to rely on technique/leverage. Basically, what I see he is a pain the arse to block.
I'm guessing that is what teams are talking to him about. Mainly about the things he can control.
at 6'2 263 would it be crazy to use him as more of an interior player? He's constantly in a four-point stance when you watch him play. Where would Staley line him up in this defense? Just questions that I'd love to be a fly on the wall for.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:36 pm to GynoSandberg
Should be off our board. That's a red flag for a guy with other huge red flags.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Calm down.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:40 pm to LooseCannon22282
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at 6'2 263 would it be crazy to use him as more of an interior player?
I've seen people discuss this, but his arms are still an issue and basically mean he projects as a terrible run defender.
That's what hurt Calijah Kancey coming out and he was a freak athlete at DI
So if Bain is going to test terribly athletically, how do we think he'll do with that frame +30 lbs?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I've seen people discuss this, but his arms are still an issue and basically mean he projects as a terrible run defender.
when you watch him at Miami, he'd handle TE's easily and his effort even the play isn't coming to him was nonstop.
It's more about where would he fit best in the Saints D?
getting off blocks isn't a problem for him and that's so key but if a player like Downs is there, that's who I would want.
I love Bain's effort and fight. He's not dodging anything. As far as scores go, I don't know I just comment on what I see when I watch him play. I do have some concerns that he didn't everything he could though.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Should be off our board. That's a red flag for a guy with other huge red flags.
Refusing to test at the combine is one thing but at the pro day where you get home cooking is wild
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:52 pm to LooseCannon22282
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just comment on what I see when I watch him play.
He’s slow, no burst, short arms. I want nothing to do with him, let someone else take a gamble
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:19 am to Proximo
I don't get the Bain-heads staying loyal after yesterday.
What's weird is there has been an increase in attacks on Bailey.
Fun fact: PFF had Bailey graded higher than Bain last year (93.3 v. 92.8) , and Bailey was WAY higher than Bain in 2024 (90.9 v. 79.8)
Guys like Bain who get by with effort and technique typically face a huge learning curve in the NFL, without the physical issues. He reminds me of a smaller (and likely a less athletic) George Karlaftis.
What's weird is there has been an increase in attacks on Bailey.
Fun fact: PFF had Bailey graded higher than Bain last year (93.3 v. 92.8) , and Bailey was WAY higher than Bain in 2024 (90.9 v. 79.8)
Guys like Bain who get by with effort and technique typically face a huge learning curve in the NFL, without the physical issues. He reminds me of a smaller (and likely a less athletic) George Karlaftis.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Bain dominates Bailey as an overall football player and run defense presence. They aren’t comparable edge players.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:26 am to Chad504boy
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Bain dominates Bailey as an overall football player
And yet, somehow, he's graded out better the past 2 years
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and run defense presence
Bain's frame and arms are going to be major issues for him in the run game in the NFL.
I'm not saying Bailey is an elite edge prospect, or that he'll be dominant in the run game, but Bain may not even be able to play run downs in time. He has the potential to be completely dominated in the run game in the NFL. Long arms are important for leverage in the run game and Bain is going to lose that battle every time in the NFL
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:38 am to Chad504boy
I think Bain will be a good player Chad, but you can't have all these questions and expect a team to draft you in the top 10 and not give them any reassurance that you may be an outlier. There are things he is hiding because he knows on top of his short arms, it would cause him to slip further down the board.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
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but you can't have all these questions and expect a team to draft you in the top 10
so is this your declaration then? Bain won't go top 10? cause that is what you are saying.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:17 am to Chad504boy
Silly question. There are always teams who are willing to take irrational risks in the draft. A smart team avoids doing that and I hope the Saints are smart.
This is all a game of percentages. Don't waste the top 10 pick on someone who has a lower percentage chance of being worth it.
This is all a game of percentages. Don't waste the top 10 pick on someone who has a lower percentage chance of being worth it.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Don't waste the top 10 pick on someone who has a lower percentage chance of being worth it.
in a lot of ways, bain is one of the safest picks of the top 10.
and it ain't silly. if you make a declaration that teams won't do x under condition y, then stick to it.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:39 am to Chad504boy
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in a lot of ways, bain is one of the safest picks of the top 10.
chad. come on, how are you coming to that conclusion? there is a lot of data on guys with his measurables indicating he will not pan out
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:48 am to Chad504boy
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in a lot of ways, bain is one of the safest picks of the top 10.
How?
His arm issue creates a much higher % chance than other top-10 picks that he's a complete non-factor in the NFL. He has a defect that is not fixable and can remove him from NFL production. His bust potential is INCREDIBLY high.
The other question is his ceiling. If he's maxed out physically and in the skills/traits you can learn (effort, technique, etc.), then what is his path to improvement? It seems his ceiling is low.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 11:49 am to Proximo
I know this is a little high for him, but Caleb Banks has a little Albert Haynesworth to his game. Guys that big that are that disruptive in the backfield can anchor a whole defense.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 1:02 pm
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