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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:46 pm to
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Now watch some reaches happen on DL because teams panic


Even though I like the pick, I feel like this is what the Saints did
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:47 pm to
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So trading 2 picks for 4-6 sacks is a win?



how many sacks would you think this would garner?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Team a has 2018 14th pick

Team b has 2018 27th pick, and two first round picks in 2019 and an additional 5th round pick


I like team bs scenario better
If you did this same hypo with the Kamara pick last season, you'd come out saying you'd prefer the 49ers scenario.

All that matters is how good Davenport will be, all the good trade/bad trade stuff is just silly, nobody knows, we'll find out later.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:48 pm to
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So trading 2 picks for 4-6 sacks is a win?
The difference between an 8 sack player and 14 is huge.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471151 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:50 pm to
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All that matters is how good Davenport will be

*in 2018

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If you did this same hypo with the Kamara pick last season,

more leeway b/c of the decreased value of the future picks and the increased value in the acquisition costs for the falling stud
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128798 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:51 pm to
Right because his legs will fall off and the only year he will ever play is 2018.
Posted by LouBega
Member since Dec 2017
999 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:52 pm to
Why do people keep saying we gahe up two firsts?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110024 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:52 pm to
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If you did this same hypo with the Kamara pick last season, you'd come out saying you'd prefer the 49ers scenario.
I agree

I’m not even saying this actual trade won’t work in our favor

I am saying I think statistically, team b in my scenario has the better chance of ending up with a good player/players

You feel me?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471151 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Right because his legs will fall off and the only year he will ever play is 2018.

we have a closing window with Brees

we leveraged our future because of this closing window

he has to immediately produce to justify the cost
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90017 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Why do people keep saying we gahe up two firsts?




because they are stupid.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7975 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
I think the window goes through 2019. I said 3 yrs left last year, this year I'm sticking to my guns, 2 years left.
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
We going to da ship baws
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128798 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:54 pm to
No he doesn't. He has to turn out to be a good player and have a good career.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Why do people keep saying we gahe up two firsts?

Technically we did, but the net is 1 pick, but we gave up 2.
Posted by LouBega
Member since Dec 2017
999 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
Ok lol
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90017 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:57 pm to
2 years is all we can expect. either get it done this year or next
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:09 pm to
They gave up more than Tampa received for a top ten pick. Also means no Brees replacement in the 2019 draft.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289634 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:32 am to
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So trading 2 picks for 4-6 sacks is a win?

If it's a "win now" move like some are saying then we need more than 4 sacks


Ya that’s a win. Situational pass rusher is needed. That is valuable to an already decent defense.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:47 am to
The only way this trade favors the Saints is if they make a deep playoff run and Davenport has at least an average season
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8867 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:57 am to
If we traded the 32 pick and a late 5th rounder for a perennial pro bowl pass rusher then it’s a great trade. If Brees gets hurt and we go 4-12 and give GB a top ten pick and Davenport is a bust then it’s a disaster.

No way to know until next year. It’s a lot to give up, but I think it shows we aren’t afraid to hit reset for a couple of years and restock on talent once this last mini window with Brees is over.
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