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re: How many years before the Saints have another Super Bowl appearance?

Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:32 pm to
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Tampa did it with an aged Tom Brady. It can be done


He threw 3 INTs vs GB and they still won. That team had alot of luck go their way like us in 2009. I believe the NFL helped in some way.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10236 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:33 pm to
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Never again in our lifetimes


This. Even another Katrina won't help.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10250 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:07 pm to
350 years
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
1386 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:45 pm to
20.......
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
564 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:56 pm to
We sold our soul for 2009-its not meant to be
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18722 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:14 pm to
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You don't seriously believe this horseshite, do you?


believe it? no - but lets be honest, the Rams got the playoff win over us so they could have the shot since LA got the new stadium and the NFL moved offices there. coincidence?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10236 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:34 pm to
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The NFL set up that one in 2009 for us

Maybe if we have another Katrina they might throw us a bone again



quote:

You don't seriously believe this horseshite, do you?


I do. The NFL guided a few of those 13 wins in 2009. It was "supposed" to be magical.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1943 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:27 am to
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massive change would need to happen inside the FO



I totally agree with the Front Office. Our drafts plus free agent areas all need significant upgrades. We need people who have extensive knowledge of running, drafting and player development.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21277 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:19 am to
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Maybe if we have another Katrina they might throw us a bone again

This shite again.

If the NFL was trying to set up a win for the Saints due to Katrina, why didn't they do it in 2006 when the Saints made it to the NFCCG the year after? And you can't say it would be too obvious, then also credit the NFL for setting up the Rams SB their first year in LA.

Also, why would Brady have so many rings? P Manning & Rodgers so few? Surely by now "America's Team" would have gotten 1 ring in the last 30ish years. When claiming parity, I'm sure they would have made sure teams like Det or Clev had at least 1 SB appearance and over 1/3rd of the league still would not be looking for their 1st ring.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 9:20 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21277 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:22 am to
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I totally agree with the Front Office. Our drafts plus free agent areas all need significant upgrades. We need people who have extensive knowledge of running, drafting and player development.

Don't disagree about the scouting department, but at the same time I wonder how handcuffed the side that scouts vet FAs are because of the cap situation. Really hard to address all of your needs when 15% of the cap is spent on dead money. To put in perspective, the team's current top cap hit (AK) counts for 7.3% of the cap
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
540 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:05 am to
In all honesty, I'd say until we get another Drew Brees. Look at how bad we were until he came in. Pieces were added here and there to help him and he made some unknowns look like superstars. I know there will never be another Drew, but realistically, I can't see anything good happening until then.
Unfortunately, we will have lost a lot of pieces to the puzzle on both ends of the ball by that point in time. In 5+ years, the defense will be totally different, as well as the offense.

It has to be the QB position that is holding us back. We have a lot of talent around the ball in Kamara, Hill, Olave, Shaheed, Perry......
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23191 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:08 am to
0, Hometown Superbowl this year, WHO DAT!
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21277 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:58 am to
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It has to be the QB position that is holding us back. We have a lot of talent around the ball in Kamara, Hill, Olave, Shaheed, Perry......

With the way this team is structured, it's a combo of the o-line & QB holding them back. Both will need to be addressed before any legit shots at a SB run, but even a QB like Brees would struggle with this o-line, and you give a QB like Carr the best o-line in the league and he'll still have his deficiencies.

But looking at the makeup of the "top 10" QBs in the league today, and if they actually take a shot at investing a top pick in a QB; they could find someone to lead them.

Top 10 QBs per PFF
Mahomes - 10th overall
Lamar - 32nd overall
Burrow - 1st overall
Allen - 7th overall
Herbert - 6th overall
Prescott - 135th overall (4th round)
Stafford - 1st overall
Rodgers - 24th overall
Hurts - 53rd overall (2nd round)
Stroud - 1st overall

Even if you disagree with the rankings, it does sort of paint a picture. The average draft spot is 27th overall, or 14th if you consider Dak & Purdy (not listed) as a pure luck anomaly. IMO, the key is your college scouts have to do a better job, and you have to take chances knowing you may burn a few 1st rounders on busts. Problem is, that also tends to cost people their jobs.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90134 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:49 pm to
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Never again in our lifetimes


prolly not. they blew 1 and the NFL blew the other . 2011 and 2018

drew knees shoulda had 3. instead of 1.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1943 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:08 pm to
2011, 2018
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12867 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:25 pm to
>10, <100
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
2082 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:17 am to
How much longer is Goodell serving as commissioner?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19094 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:27 am to
We need an elite QB, coach, and top 15 defense to even be in contention.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7105 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:38 am to
0. We comin.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68368 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:22 pm to
What a bullshite take…
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