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Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:29 pm to
don't get me wrong...i love bush and his pass catching ability but i just wish he could help us out in the running game.
Posted by GeauxD
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
1359 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:32 pm to
I know I know. Hopefully we get a good LT next year and learn to run block, and you never know, Reggie might take his running between the tackles ability to the next level. Unfortunately defenses in the NFL arent as slow as the ones he played in the puff-10 week in and week out in college.
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 11:37 pm to
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Unfortunately defenses in the NFL arent as slow as the ones he played in the puff-10 week in and week out in college.

yeah. the speed of the defenses amazes me. Bush has an extremely hard time to get the corner and get separation on plays when he cuts. some of the plays the lbs make on him are insane. I was a big defender of bush's running ability in the past 2 seasons because he actually did very good for duece when he went down but i glaring need for a consistent running game has changed my mind a little
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 12:51 am to
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he is pretty dynamic in the open field in his own right and just as fast as bush


I think he is very comparable to Reggie. This is NOT a knock on Bush. I think Norwood is a very underrated player that should be more involved in their offense.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 2:04 am to
Is part of your brain missing??? It actually has nothing to do with the thread...I'm just wondering in general after reading some of your posts

Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10956 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:01 am to
SFP = reggie bush hater

and every time reggie gets the ball he is swarmed to. he's not the RB that will run people over, thats not why we drafted him. he's good in open space. if he's met by 5 defenders 2 yards past the line of scrimmage, he's not going very far. not even jesus could get out of that situation.
Posted by Edible Dirt
Member since Mar 2008
2991 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:59 am to
How long will it take for you to realize that as long as SP is head coach, no running back will be extremely effective. Adrian Peterson wouldn't get a 100 yd rushing game on this pass-happy offense.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23064 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 12:11 pm to
I'll take Bush

The Falcons had to bring in Turner b/c Norwood was not a complete RB. Therefore, if I were to choose a skat type RB like Bush and Norwood...I would choose Bush 10 times out of 10.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 12:16 pm to
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The Falcons had to bring in Turner b/c Norwood was not a complete RB.

norwood can't carry the load

but uh, reggie can't either...if you hadn't noticed
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23064 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 12:37 pm to
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but uh, reggie can't either...if you hadn't noticed


uhh, yeah, uhh thats my point SFP. If I had to choose a skat type back, that can't carry the load, I would choose Reggie every time!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62534 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 9:21 pm to
Norwood - 6 career TDs
Bush - 23 career TDs

Nice call SFP

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 9:41 pm to
being used in a similar role, i believe norwood is averaging about 3 more yards per carry
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 11:51 pm to
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Bush
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 12:50 am to
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being used in a similar role, i believe norwood is averaging about 3 more yards per carry

bush is around 3.6 ypc career
norwood is around 6.1 ypc career

their career numbers are around the same for this season as well

don't quote me on that though
This post was edited on 11/12/08 at 12:55 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62534 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 6:21 am to
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being used in a similar role, i believe norwood is averaging about 3 more yards per carry




Nice point. The YPC stat is much more important than 4 times the # of TDs.

As a pure runner, sure Norwood may be better. But, I can name 100 RBs who are better pure runners than Bush.

That's not the question. The question is would I take Norwood over Bush. The answer is Hell no. I'm not an idiot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 9:16 am to
quote:

The YPC stat is much more important than 4 times the # of TDs.

TDs are often a function of role

hell norwood isn't even a PR i don't believe

quote:

The answer is Hell no. I'm not an idiot.

honest question

what is reggie SO much better than norwood at other than punt returning?

you've already conceded he's a better runner than reggie

he's obviously dangerous on swing passes (see: the saints game), but he's not used as a primary guy like reggie is
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23064 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 9:28 am to
let it go SFP

your wrong, no matter how you twist our words on this board....your still wrong
Posted by Edible Dirt
Member since Mar 2008
2991 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 9:33 am to
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what is reggie SO much better than norwood at other than punt returning?
SFP, disregard your hate for Reggie and please tell me you don't think Norwood is better than Reggie. Regardless if Reggie isn't "SO" much better at anything , he's better than Norwood and anyone who would trade Reggie for Norwood really is an idiot. I'm typically not one to waste my time "e-name calling" but seriously...Reggie would run circles around Norwood all over the field.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 9:34 am to
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let it go SFP




I haven't been here long, but I know well enough to not expect this.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71859 posts
Posted on 11/12/08 at 10:24 am to
Being a Saints and Falcons fan (don't ask me to explain) and having watched BOTH these guys just about every game of their careers I will say Norwood is EXTREMELY underrated. He is a great runner unlike Reggie but isn't as good in open space as Reggie off of passes or punt returns because he doesn't have moves like Reggie. He has the same speed as Reggie and does return kicks pretty well.

They both have their advantages over another.

Norwood - Has shown to be more durable and a better runner out of the backfield. Doesn't fumble much (twice in 3-year career).

Bush - Better in open space and making people miss making him a bigger threat to catch passes out of the backfield and return punts.
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