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Posted on 8/21/11 at 1:57 pm to CptRusty
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Get it through your thick fricking skul
first off, keep it civil.... i could easily make the same harrassing argument to you... but i'm not...
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you are making evaluations period based on preseason practice games
what else do i have as far as empirical evidence??? i'm not at their practices, so yeah, all i have to go by regarding THIS SEASON THUS FAR is what i've seen in the plays that the first team has been in on.... sorry, but i'm not going by the hyped media reports or the "expert" opinions, but i'm forming my own opinion based on what i've seen first hand.... you can do what you like, but that's the way that i come with a hypothesis...
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What people have a problem with is when you project that evaluation into your "predictions" for the regular season. You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion, but when you post it all over a message board, it puts your ignorance on display for all to see.
that goes two ways... for those of that aren't as "half full" type of guys, that do have concerns, even after 2 "meaningless practice preseason games", we could just as easily write off the diehard crowd as ignorant, blind dumbfricks.... but i'm not... i'm not attacking anyone personally, nor will i.... i am attacking the first team's piss poor performance, and stating my concern as it relates to the ultimate goal of lifting the Lombardi... sorry you don't see it the same way, but i'm not apologizing for my point of view, no matter how much you might disapprove of it....
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Stop acting so surprised when people call you on it.
i'm more surprised that after the success this club has recently had, and the limited window of opportunity, that more people are not concerned with a clear "holding" pattern of progression, at least that's what it looks like to me....
Posted on 8/21/11 at 2:10 pm to CM84
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It's inexcusable to miss that many tackles, but again it will get cleaned up
really? missed tackles helped to end our season last year.... so why hasn't it been cleaned up yet????
like i said, going from last year to this year, and so far from i've seen, i don't feel like we have gotten better... on paper, yes.... we have a championship club on paper... but, so far, the results have been pretty lackluster, no?
again, i'm not trying to shite on the team.... i'm not saying the sky is falling, like so many are trying to say about me.... but i am saying that, so far, it looks like that, at best, we have stayed the same, and at worst, gotten worse, compared to the previous two seasons.....
Posted on 8/21/11 at 2:12 pm to chRxis
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first off, keep it civil....
says the guy who wished death on a classy poster yesterday
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oh, and another opinion of mine is that you suck at life... seriously, just kill yourself now, so you don't pollute the gene pool... please
dude I realize you're passionate about the team which is awesome, you've just gone 0-60 freak out off of a small sample of preseason games...NFL teams have peaks and valleys throughout the season. They adapt, and grow. As long as you get into the tournament you have a shot.
This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/21/11 at 2:16 pm to chRxis
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could easily make the same harrassing argument to you... but i'm not...
Way to pat yourself on the back. Sorry if you don't like the big bad 4 lettered words, I'll try to keep it more PG-13 for you in the future.
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what else do i have as far as empirical evidence???
The fact that you are considering preseason play as any sort of evidence to evaluate the teams regular season potential is the entire root of why you're on this "chicken little" list in the first place.
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we could just as easily write off the diehard crowd as ignorant, blind dumbfricks...
How so? No one here is screaming "Lombardi-gras 2.0", those people would be stupid to think that such a prediction could be made at this point...sound familiar?
Look at the end of the day, we're both Saints fans and want the same thing.
If the defense looks like this in the regular season, I'll be right there next to you saying they need to get their asses squared away, but I think the point everyone is trying to get across to you is that it would be wiser to reserve judgement until you've seen something upon which judgement could reasonably be passed. Preseason does not fall in that category.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 2:24 pm to chRxis
and the limited window of opportunity, that more people are not concerned with a clear "holding" pattern of progression, at least that's what it looks like to me....
Reading this I wonder how much you have really read around here.
99.9% of the regs have talked this to death.
As to 'how many missed tackles...why has this not been cleaned up yet'.I would only reply that a little thing happened on the way to camp this year.
It was a lock out. I don't think this helped any teams to play better.
JMO
P.S.
Party like rock stars LSU 22.
Reading this I wonder how much you have really read around here.
99.9% of the regs have talked this to death.
As to 'how many missed tackles...why has this not been cleaned up yet'.I would only reply that a little thing happened on the way to camp this year.
It was a lock out. I don't think this helped any teams to play better.
JMO
P.S.
Party like rock stars LSU 22.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 2:28 pm to St Augustine
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quote: oh, and another opinion of mine is that you suck at life... seriously, just kill yourself now, so you don't pollute the gene pool... please
I think NS ate this one.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 4:17 pm to St Augustine
can we add Huckiewin for the hell of it?
Posted on 8/21/11 at 4:30 pm to Deactived
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Posted on 8/21/11 at 4:30 pm to Deactived
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can we add Huckiewin for the hell of it?
This
Posted on 8/21/11 at 5:17 pm to chRxis
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that more people are not concerned with a clear "holding" pattern of progression, at least that's what it looks like to me....
so you are saying the Saints are getting worse?
based off 2 preseason games?
Yes, the 2 preseason game are all we have at this point. It doesnt mean you can take heavy stock on what has happened in those games.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:36 pm to xraytech
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Me too. Alot of dumb techs out there , why im in interventional.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:38 pm to chRxis
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what else do i have as far as empirical evidence???
Absolutely nothing, you just have to be patient and wait until the regular season rolls around. If a serious injury occurs or an important aging veteran looks like he lost a step then that is something you can project to the regular season, but the preseason is about new player evaluation for the coaches, not team evaluation for the fans or experts.
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the diehard crowd
By diehard crowd I assume you mean most of the people giving you shite. Well if you pay attention to what they're saying in between the insults, they aren't saying "LaLaLaLa STFU CHAMPIONSHIP!" They're saying preseason is not useful evidence for making the projections you're making.
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i'm more surprised that after the success this club has recently had, and the limited window of opportunity, that more people are not concerned with a clear "holding" pattern of progression, at least that's what it looks like to me....
Holding pattern? On the DLine, an admitted area of weakness, they added a first round pick and replaced two 2nd string DTs with 2 of the top DL FA available. Also, after finishing 28th in rushing, they added a bellcow back to the RBBC and managed to free up salary while adding someone that will hopefully be as productive as the often injured Reggie Bush.
Other than Linebacker the team was pretty aggressive and successful at plugging the holes to take advantage of the window. Just because all the new faces aren't fully integrated a few weeks after joining the team doesn't mean the Saints are no longer a legit contender.
There's a reason they say "That's why they play the games." You need to give it a few regular season games at least before penciling them in or writing them off. Health and having the bounces go your way often play as big a part of getting to the SuperBowl as being the best team on paper.
This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 8/22/11 at 2:54 am to TigerinATL
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Health and having the bounces go your way often play as big a part of getting to the SuperBowl as being the best team on paper.
Why the Fail Can't were able to win the division last year IMO.
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