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Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28339 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:55 am to
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There's no defending what we did with ceedy. None.





Slant Man
#NeverForget
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75096 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:21 am to
People think we just decided for no reason at all to trade him for a 5th and a 6th pic. From what I read he wanted a extension based on a safety position sloting. He wanted more money simple. But then the team situation got bad for some reason and...
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The situation boiled over over the past couple of weeks. Eventually, he refused coaching due to the dispute, and the Saints knew that a trade was inevitable. That came to fruition today as they dealt him to the Eagles. The Eagles plan on using him as a safety, rather than solely as a nickel defender.


It got bad and it got bad quickly, Who is at fault I don't know but I lean to the coaching staff. The FO just reacted to the staffs request. Maybe the whole story comes out one day
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:22 am to
I'm sure he's saying same thing about New Orleans and laughing at us who probably won't see another SB in our lifetimes.

Much as I dislike how Payton handled his situation here, it was unquestionable he ran this organization from talent evaluations to personnel decisions, etc. I'm reminded quickly at just how fricking awful Loomis was before Payton got here.

Eagles made out like champs from NO. They got a missing key piece to their defense and robbed them of their high 1st draft pick.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 10:25 am
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
4424 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:35 am to

Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7898 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:58 am to
He might have been. But that’s not a reason to trade him for a 6th rd pick.

Buffalo for instance, had safety injuries all season in the secondary. The Baltimore Ravens did too. We could have easily gotten a 3rd rd pick or better for Ceedy, just by waiting for a contender to have an injury and then shipping him off.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14604 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:02 pm to
They shoulda paid him whatever. Dude is a top 15 defender in the nfl all positions included. But nah let’s sign washed up arse honeywhiffer
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14868 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:35 pm to
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Buffalo for instance, had safety injuries all season in the secondary. The Baltimore Ravens did too. We could have easily gotten a 3rd rd pick or better for Ceedy, just by waiting for a contender to have an injury and then shipping him off.


We had 0 leverage.
Philly knew that.
We knew that.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12595 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:37 pm to
I'm not justifying the trade. I'm saying it wasn't bc Michael Thomas wanted it
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:48 pm to
Ceedy had a chance to be one of the most loved players of the franchise. Instead he became a team cancer and bad mouthed the franchise on his way out the door. Karma never takes a day off
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7898 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:56 pm to
Exactly, which is why we needed to wait until we had leverage and another team didn’t.

That generally happens around the trade deadline with contenders that have injuries.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8782 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:44 pm to
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they pay McCoy who is a good player but unfortunately is always hurt.


McCoy has played 57 of a possible 66 games. What the hell are you talking about??

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75096 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:48 pm to
He wasn't going to practice or play anymore for that staff. Why they didn't stash him and wait awhile for the best deal I've never heard it asked.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14868 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 4:48 pm to
Neither of us were there but I’d imagine the situation was pretty toxic if we got rid of him when we did.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62471 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

We had 0 leverage.
Philly knew that.
We knew that.



The leverage was to let him play out his deal. There was basically zero upside to trading him.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75096 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:07 pm to
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The leverage was to let him play out his deal.


He was done playing for us. There was no playing anything out. Why can't some see that something toxic went down and a line was crossed. Is this board really thinking that only we knew how good he was, game changing, sh!t talking master that was a fan fav and the Coaches just up and said "get rid of him for peanuts yeah thats a good idea"
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5756 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:11 am to
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We had 0 leverage. Philly knew that. We knew that.


Disagree, time was on our side. Ask for his real value (probably a 2 or 3) and healthy scratch him all year until price was met and it would’ve been.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34181 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:19 am to
They shoulda paid him whatever. Dude is a top 15 defender in the nfl all positions included. But nah let’s sign washed up arse honeywhiffer



Top 15 overall?
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14604 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 10:06 am to
Yep. Top 15 overall.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74120 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:40 pm to
He was the 46th highest graded safety per PFF

He might be a top 15 nickel in the league
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:52 pm to
What a dumb take, Ceedy had a great year, made it to the Super Bowl, and will get a nice deal.
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