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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:47 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:47 am to
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Love and downs are not value for this team
m

Care to explain that ?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:15 am to
Downs is.

Love isn't.

You're about to see a lot of teams start copying the 3 safety look of BAL and you need a S like Kyle Hamilton to do that. Downs can be that guy.

You also see the Seahawks (run by MacDonald who taught the Ravens' DC the defense) do similar things with Nick Emmanwori.

A S who can play at all levels both vertically and horizontally is extremely rare and extremely important with modern defenses. Downs is supposedly one of those guys.
Posted by DeltaLove
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:19 am to
Then just draft a damn guard. It’s not a hard concept. You don’t have to keep moving Fuaga every damn year.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:47 am to
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:51 am to
8 - David Bailey - EDGE | Texas Tech

42 - Chris Bell - WR | Louisville

73 - Chase Bisontis - IOL | Texas A&M

132 - Hezekiah Masses - CB | California

137 - Jaishawn Barham - LB | Michigan

148 - Anthony Smith - DL | Minnesota

170 - Kaytron Allen - RB | Penn State

190 - Bray Hubbard - S | Alabama
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:00 am to
Bailey's stock is about to erupt i think, Sandy
Posted by MSCGA
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:14 am to
David Bailey.
Posted by Jim Hopper
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:30 am to
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m Care to explain that
downs is absolutely value to this team. I still think drafting rb’s in the first is unwise in today’s NFL, so I lean more toward Downs, or either side of the trenches in the first. But bailey just looks like he’ll be a productive player, Bain is definitely boom or bust.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:43 am to
I’m not advocating to draft Love, my point is that if you are picking in the top 10, I think you have to set your eyes towards finding a generational type talent, and that is Love. Not a RT that might have to move to Guard

Love is a Bijan/CMC type RB. The Gap between him & RB2 in this draft is the biggest out of any position.

The Saints RB room is one of the 5 worst in the league. RBs that can run & catch like Love can be the focal point of an offense. Shough needs a weapon there and this would make sense, against most conventional wisdoms.
Posted by S
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:50 am to
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A S who can play at all levels both vertically and horizontally is extremely rare and extremely important with modern defenses


Thanks brother
Posted by IronJohn
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:08 am to
I agree with you, and would have no issue going with oline in round 1, but a game changing running back could take some pressure off Shough as well?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:38 am to
David Bailey for some reason gives me Pat Swilling vibes with a bit of Rickey Jackson edge to him
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:53 am to
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I like everything except Love and the OT's.

I am cool with an OT if we have a plan to get rid of Ruiz and so on.

Drafting Love is exactly where we can go wrong and drafting Love without addressing OL first is probably the worst and dumbest thing we could do.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Care to explain that ?

We’re picking 8th in the draft, it’s best for the team to come out with a standout edge based on what they’re getting in free agency

Premier RB’s are had for like $12mm while an elite edge is going to cost at least $30mm

We’re playing well enough at safety that we don’t need Downs and that’s also not a super costly position to sign
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:13 pm to
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The Saints RB room is one of the 5 worst in the league.

Because of our OL.
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Shough needs a weapon

Weapons without an OL is a gun without ammo. See the Bengals.
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this would make sense

If our OL wasn't garbage. Without that it does not make sense.

If we draft a RB top 10 we have to use him. You give those guys 25+ carries a game. How many times will Shough throw the ball if we are forced to run the ball 25+ times because we spent such a high pick on a RB? How successful will we be running the ball 25+ times a game with this OL?

None of it makes sense, its not a good pick, its not a smart pick, it doesn't even really help us.

Without an OL we would be wasting 2 picks. 1 on a RB who isn't effective and another on whichever player we passed on that could actually make an impact. And you could argue that it hurts Shough's development by being forced to use that RB.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:17 pm to
I actually don't think I'm exaggerating by saying this but with this current roster drafting a kicker at #8 would help more as a whole than adding a freaking RB. Based on overall impact this year and other factors.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:34 pm to
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we draft a RB top 10 we have to use him. You give those guys 25+ carries a game


lol no you don’t.

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Because of our OL.


The OL is more than serviceable when McCoy is healthy.


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And you could argue that it hurts Shough's development by being forced to use that RB.


Jesus. I forget why I don’t ever read this board
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Jesus. I forget why I don’t ever read this board

You just said it would be worth it to draft a RB #8 even if we don't use him much.

And your other opinion is based on the health of McCoy?

Thank you for the thoughtless opinions. Forget reading the board, why even post here with those stupid arse takes?

I explained how drafting a RB has a minimal impact and your response is "well we don't have to use him". Based on that I'm surprised you can even read the board.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:15 pm to
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would be worth it to draft a RB #8 even if we don't use him much.


Huh? Think you read that wrong
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:21 pm to
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we draft a RB top 10 we have to use him. You give those guys 25+ carries a game

lol no you don’t.

What could this possiblly mean if I'm already talking about having a limited impact?

He doesn't help the team unless he has the ball, the more he has the ball the less Shough has the ball. You don't draft someone that high and not use them when the other 8 players would be starting every single play.

He would literally have the smallest usage and smallest impact of any other player we draft there.
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