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Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:36 pm to
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So now Jennings is a value at 22


You're not getting a number one wr to the saints unless you overpay or hit pay dirt in the draft. Jennings olave and vele isn't a bad 123 if you find a legit wr in the draft.

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Vele didn’t even have 300 yards in 13 games


We all saw how well he played with shough until he got hurt.

Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:40 pm to
he was also injured when he got here; he had a knee injury in camp. That may have contributed to the slow start

Our approach is to take flyers on cheap, high upside players and I think it’s a good strategy
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Pickens made less than Cooks last year. 28 million for a # 1 receiver that put up top 5 receiver numbers isn’t a bad price.

So you want to risk being the next Falcons when he gets hit with 5 felonies for his bad character?
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Our approach is to take flyers on cheap, high upside players and I think it’s a good strategy


I get what you are saying but Jennings will not be cheap. That’s my point and whatiknosifar fails to grasp. He considers over 20 million a year a ‘value’

Veke is cheap but he’s also 28. His upside is limited. Perkins is 3 or 4 years younger and will probably only get better.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:41 pm to
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it’s not, his last year was 2022


Did you not just mention him in your list of why we having cap issues?
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:44 pm to
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So you want to risk being the next Falcons when he gets hit with 5 felonies for his bad character?


First off Falcons gave up a 1st for him. Pickins woukd have cost a 3rd. I’m not aware of any criminal past he has had. He’s more of a locker room, on the field issue, similar to Michael Thomas.

We gave Granderson an extension and he actually did jail time on a sex charge.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:52 pm to
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you like to say dumb shite. here's the thread you are mostly referring to. My one comment i said was for us to keep sheed for the next 2 years, he would have been paid 15-20 million a year in comparison to the value of what we are getting out of vele on a rookie salary during that time.


This is the thread I’m talking about, it was another poster but you are agreeing with him.

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And that doesn’t include the most important part…Shaheed is expiring. He will get paid $25m+/yr this offseason. So we were either paying that, or letting him walk and being unable to sign FAs of our own or risk losing out in the comp pick formula.


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/new-orleans-saints/shaheed-for-vele-lmao/121073691/?sort=0
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Wadey
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:17 pm to
Sign Cam, DD, and Alonte Draft #1 Edge, #2 guard, #3 CB, #4 DT also sign in free agent a very good OIL, TE, RB. Depending on the rookies being very good ur in the playoffs.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:17 pm to
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The Saints have a good start with the most recent draft but they haven’t stacked anything


This. And there’s been teams in the past with good starts that flounder. Saints need to nail this draft and FA class before they can be considered even a favorite for the South
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:49 pm to
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but you are agreeing with him.



Defending one stupid made up statement with another made up statement
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Defending one stupid made up statement with another made up statement


So now u backtracking and don’t think he’ll get 20+ million?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:40 pm to
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So now u backtracking


Not backtracking a single word. Care to actually read anything I posted in those threads?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 12:59 pm to
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He considers over 20 million a year a ‘value’


You keep saying this like itll be a fact, yet I've seen a report saying he'll be available in the high teens as well (16-19)

You also keep forgetting that 28 mil vs 20 mil is significant as frick as far as cap management.

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Current PFF contract projections place Jennings in the range of just over $16.6 million per year, a figure that would rank 29th in average annual value. The 49ers are projected to possess over $42.9 million in cap space, so an extension is highly feasible and would answer a crucial offseason question for this offense. 
This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:28 pm to
I'm sure you know.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/14/26 at 10:47 am to
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Did you not just mention him in your list of why we having cap issues?

His was justifiable. He’s a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback

My point was every contract that got us in trouble was the right move at the time. Drew to milk the last couple years and run it back where we should’ve gone to the Super Bowl once and in 2020 should’ve beat the Bucs in the playoffs (who did win it). Worth it

All the others were no brainers but injuries to MT and Ram screwed us

Also, can’t forget the Covid year really put a wrench in the normal operation of the cap increasing year over year
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by Magazine St
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 3:36 pm to
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The dude is an absolute plodder averaging 4 ypc in a very good offense.

This is the NFL, 4.0 ypc is the standard. This isn’t college or high school football.
Posted by Magazine St
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Super Bowl isn't realistic.

Indiana just won the CFB National Championship. A previously 4-13 team made it to the big dance this season in the NFL. Anything can happen in this weird age of the sport.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 4:29 pm to
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This is the NFL, 4.0 ypc is the standard. This isn’t college or high school football.


No it isn’t, and you sure as hell don’t pay 4.0 guys even modest second contract money. We already made that mistake with Williams in the last few years. You get that production from late round draft picks and UDFAs for a tiny fraction of the price.

We have 2 Charbonnet level players already on the roster in Kendre, old Kamara, and Neal. We need an actual guy with some real juice.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 8:50 pm to
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My point was every contract that got us in trouble was the right move at the time


There’s been several that were highly questionable. The Peat extension was retarded and called out on here. Same for the Ruiz extension. Neither did anything to deserve those contracts except it would make Micky look stupid for letting them walk after being first round picks by his regime…..

Brees should never be on any list. He was underpaid his entire time here.
This post was edited on 2/15/26 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14504 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 9:02 pm to
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You keep saying this like itll be a fact, yet I've seen a report saying he'll be available in the high teens as well (16-19)


Even at 16-19, that’s not a value contract lol. And from what I read, 9ers are not going past the 20 a year mark and they think he’s leaving for more.

You shoujd have said a guy I mentioned before. Doubs might go in the 10-12 range. That’s more of a value than Jennings.
This post was edited on 2/15/26 at 9:03 pm
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