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Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
679 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:09 pm to
That's one and he has a fully built motor.

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Sheldon tackled the engine assembly first obtaining a beefed up block and rotating assembly. The block was massaged and sleeved by Dehotels Machine Shop in Baton Rouge. The stock bottom-end was scrapped for a Boss crankshaft, Manley I beam rods, and Manley pistons. Next Sheldon picked up a new Holly Sniper intake and a set of MMR Stage 3 cylinder heads and immediately sent them to Brett Barber for custom porting and polishing. Next, he added the custom CPR/Wicked Chassis 88mm turbo kit.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Oh man I'm so excited! I can't wait to see these monsters on I-10 at 530 am, weaving in and out of traffic, hurrying to the plant to pay that note.




I think you're confusing this Mustang with King Ranch F250s towing Ranger boats
Posted by Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:13 pm to
That’s exactly what he’s saying
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Stock m5 runs a 2.8


I'm seeing 3.2 to 3.5 secs for a stock M5.

I'm calling it now, aint no M5 with a tune running 2.2 second 0-60s. Especially on street tires.

Nope.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12169 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:19 pm to
yea the spoiler looks like it was bought at Autozone
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Ford never put the 5.0 in the Shelby 500 I never said they did, only mentioned it because its the standard mustang v8 engine and the 5.2 is a similar engine quote: it’s been a 5.4 ltr. Previous was a 5.8 quote: and your not getting 1500 ho out of a stock 5.0 ... at least not for long!! Like I stated, boost and they maintain very well. There a numerous DD mustangs with well over 1000+hp The coyote and the voodoo were built to handle it with their internals
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:21 pm to
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I'm seeing 3.2 to 3.5 secs for a stock M5.

I'm calling it now, aint no M5 with a tune running 2.2 second 0-60s. Especially on street tires.

Nope.
not buying it either
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17508 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:24 pm to
2.2 is not happening on street tires, but i've run a couple from a stop light in my slightly modded GTR and they're way closer than most cars i've lined up with.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:30 pm to
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I'm calling it now, aint no M5 with a tune running 2.2 second 0-60s.

This guy ain't one to lie. He's been doing Dinan for decades. His 2014 Dinan M5 generates ~880HP and some outrageous torque number.
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Especially on street tires.

I'm sure it'll be shoed appropriately.

Just found this, too:

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Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:55 pm to
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I'm calling it now, aint no M5 with a tune running 2.2 second 0-60s.


The 2019s are AWD with a turbo V8. Being forced induction, a tune can add quite a bit of power (I'll ballpark it at +80-100hp). Couple that with some sticky tires, like a Toyo R888r or similar, and it seems entirely possible.

Now, whether you really want to be doing that to the DCT with a voided warranty is another question
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:57 pm to
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a voided warranty

Blurb said it doesn't void the warranty.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Unlike the factory 5.0L engine, the "Aluminator" is built with low compression forged pistons and H-beam connecting rods to meet the demands of forced induction.


I had no idea, that's awesome. A factory crate motor built for boost.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2325 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:00 pm to
Tesla Model X does 2.9 seconds to 60.

It is basically a minivan.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33505 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:01 pm to
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I like both cars but I would think objectively the edge for putting power to the ground goes to the Demon. It also has IRS and puts 800+ hp and 700+ tq to the ground efficiently enough to lift a wheel in a 4500 lbs car...through an automatic transmission. Some seriously over engineered parts in that thing



….and then there's the winding mountain road or track.

Thing is, the Shelby is a track wizard AND a stoplight monster.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Blurb said it doesn't void the warranty.


Unless this is a BMW add-on (your blurb doesn't give much info), then they can definitely refuse to warranty your DCT if it shits the bed, if they can prove you had modified the engine. From what I understand a lot of BMW "tunes" are actually piggyback units which sit between the sensors and the ECU, so there is no actual modification of the ECU itself...just remove the piggyback if you need to bring it in for service.

With that said, I know some manufacturers log things like boost, rpm, etc. so they can tell if you've screwed with the car. It would surprise me if BMW doesn't.
Posted by Ray Corona
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2019
119 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Still not as much as a Hellcat.


Aren't the Ford's like 400 pounds lighter though?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:10 pm to
A Porsche GT2 RS generates 700 HP out of a 3.8 liter turbocharged engine.

0-60 is 2.6 seconds.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Still not as much as a Hellcat.


Aren't the Ford's like 400 pounds lighter though?
and more power than the hellcat.

Stat 2020 Ford Mustang GT500 2019 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat
Base MSRP TBD (est ~$75,000) $65,995
0-60 mph TBD, “Mid-3-second range” 3.5 seconds
Horsepower + Engine 760 hp, supercharged 5.2 liter V8 717 hp, 6.2 liter V8
Torque 625 lb-ft 656 lb-ft
Transmission 7-speed Dual-Clutch Automatic 6-speed Manual or 8-speed Automatic
Wheelbase TBD, est 107” 116.2”
Dimensions TBD, est 190”x82”x54” 197.5”x85.4”x57”
Weight TBD, est 4,000 lbs ~4,445 lbs
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57012 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:22 pm to
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I'm seeing 3.2 to 3.5 secs for a stock M5.


The E63 benz runs a 3.1 and the m5 is faster

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It sports a twin-turbo 4.4-liter V-8 with 600 horsepower and 553 lb-ft of torque, making the M5 mighty quick. At our test track, it launched to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds and snapped off a 10.9-second quarter-mile time at 129 mph; top speed maxed out at 163 mph.


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I'm calling it now, aint no M5 with a tune running 2.2 second 0-60s.


Depends on how much boost BMW runs stock, but with the twin turbos, a tune can crank out some serious HP

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Especially on street tires.


Tires are going to need to be special, thats for sure
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14198 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Thing is, the Shelby is a track wizard AND a stoplight monster.


GT350 is a track wizard. Jury is still out on the GT500.

The Demon was literally designed for 1/4 racing, so road racing is a moot point. The old “the challenger can’t take a turn” schtick is old and tired. While the assessment that the challenger does not handle as well as some of its competitors is true, it holds its own just fine especially given that its built on an old (mid/late 2000’s) Mercedes sedan chassis.

That said, the challenger is a GT car, mustang and camaro are pony cars...there are notable size and weight differences.
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