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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by Bedhog
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:05 pm to
There's the man
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:31 pm to
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Uhhh, maybe it was just jesus calling them home. it was their time and jesus and/or god decided that this is how he/she was going to take them home/back to heaven...in a fiery plane crash!!!

and no, I did not pause b4 hitting submit.





I knew 4 people who died in that crash. I was friends with 2 of them for almost 16 years, the other 2 were their children.


With no due respect whatsoever, go frick yourself.


Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:33 pm to
Sorry for your loss.


Do you know if it was a charter or flight or did they own the airplane?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:35 pm to
My friend owned the airplane
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:42 pm to
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Derrick From Texas
Hopefully you were banned for this.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:49 pm to
frick, that was a nearly brand new plane.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Feathering is basically pointing the sharp edge of the prop into the wind so you don't have a bunch of extra drag on the airplane while you're trying to climb on one engine and maintain directional control



Can you explain this? The prop blades are able to be trimmed?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:55 pm to
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Engine failure,pilot tried to go around and had the nose too high causing the stall. You can see the stall/skid on the dashcam footage. He should have been able to recover from that but he didn't calmly try to gain altitude before attempting to come around for the landing.


Isnt the cardinal rule when faced with an emergency to fly the plane?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:57 pm to
Not a pilot or airplane expert, but I really feel for the families of the lost. Godspeed.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:57 pm to
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Isnt the cardinal rule when faced with an emergency to fly the plane?



I would imagine that’s easier said than done. Everyone likes to think they’re cool hand Luke until SHTF
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:01 pm to
It’s been a bad couple of weeks for rich folks and private aviation.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Can you explain this? The prop blades are able to be trimmed?

Sort of. It's called a constant-speed prop. Basically the prop RPMs remain at a constant speed set by the pilot. The throttles actually control the pitch of the blades forcing them to either to take a big bite of air(more thrust) or a small bite of air(less thrust). This is controlled by oil pressure and flywieghts in the prop hub. The king air has a system that dumps all the oil out of the prop hub in the event of an engine failure causing the flyweights to basically drag the prop into feather. Of course the system has to be armed and a few other conditions met for this to happen.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:05 pm to
Learn something new every day. I would have thought they were fixed in place but makes perfect sense


It seems like it lost power long before it flipped over. Is that just drag, or possible gunning the right engine?
Posted by lsufan112001
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:07 pm to
by Derrick From Texas
Uhhh, maybe it was just jesus calling them home. it was their time and jesus and/or god decided that this is how he/she was going to take them home/back to heaven...in a fiery plane crash!!!

and no, I did not pause b4 hitting submit
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a-hole.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:08 pm to
It's what they call a Vmc roll. Vmc is basically the minimum airspeed at which you can maintain directional control with the critical engine(almost always the left) inoperative. In the video you can clearly see they were not maintaining directional control and then eventually got to far below that speed and it snapped over.
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:11 pm to
I know next to nothing but could that left engine go into reverse thrust? It just banked so hard and inverted to the left that it makes me wonder.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36594 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:11 pm to
Why are small aircraft more prone to crashes? Excluding “amateurs” in piper cubs and such, why are private jets the ones who go down the most?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:15 pm to
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I know next to nothing but could that left engine go into reverse thrust?
Not unless the pilot manually put it in reverse. He'd have to pull the throttle lever over two seperate "gates" to make this happen. EXTREMELY unlikely AND some other shite on the prop governor would have to be broken. I can't even imagine this scenario.
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:17 pm to
Loss of directional control due to being below what is known as Vmc. Vmc is the speed where a twin engine propeller plane doesn’t have enough air flow over the rudder to create enough force to counter act the roll and yaw that is being created from having too much/full thrust on one side of the plane and now excessive drag due to merely a windmill on the other.

Here’s another example of it happening, looks very similar to me... LINK
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 9:19 pm to
On the plus side suffering was pretty short lived for the deceased
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