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Posted on 12/30/22 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Yeah frick that rope swing. Did it once to go fix a broken aircraft on a toadstool. The seas weren't even that rough but that boat was pitching up and down and left and right like you wouldn't believe probably one of the most dangerous things I've ever done and this is coming from someone who has thousands of hours flying in helicopters, including the engine failure to Auto rotational landing


Rope swing?

Try jumping off a Zodiak inflatable hull onto a round hull submarine in the middle of the Indian Ocean
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
47558 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Could all of these 'copter crashes be related in some way to the sabotaging of power plants and food processing plants happening across the country? I'm sure there are a number of wackos who would like to hurt the O & G industry any way they can.
Someone missed the Q thread by












That much.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:37 pm to
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as well as the "twin engine aircraft are safer" line of thinking that has come about. Single engine aircraft have been in the GOM since the piston engined Bell 47's used by PHI way back in the day. I dont buy it myself. Yes you have 2 engine redundancy, but now you are twice as complex, with double the moving parts. And the two engines still feed into 1 main transmission and rotor system and one tail rotor system.
2 is 1 and 1 is none.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3103 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Not true. The LG was down. I saw the video and the pictures. And, as mentioned, it was a AW139.


That flight crew did a phenomenal job. It wasn’t a text book emergency and it’s a credit to the two pilots.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2473 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:45 pm to
Manufacturing defect caused that AW139 incident. Hats off to the Pilots for getting that one right. No Emergency Procedures existed for their problems that day,
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34288 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:46 pm to
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Kodiak
zodiac?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114301 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:50 pm to
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jumping off a Kodiak inflatable hull onto a round hull submarine


Done that and I've done the rope swing onto a rig... both will equally make your a-hole clinch
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2473 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Kodiak


Ole baw was riding on a can of dip....my hats off.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26274 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Main rotor system developed from the OH-58D

They got that design right from the start. They learned from all the mistakes made on the first gen 412 M/R/H & M/R/B and weren't going down that road again.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2473 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 3:03 pm to
Oh so you know about that stacked rotor head and what a nightmare it was.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26274 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 3:15 pm to
I know the story very well. It was an interesting and hectic time to be in FT Worth to say the least.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3103 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Manufacturing defect caused that AW139 incident. Hats off to the Pilots for getting that one right. No Emergency Procedures existed for their problems that day,


I’m well aware and had 1200 hours in that airframe.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40711 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:28 pm to
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The coast guard released a picture of the "debris" it appears the helicopter departed from the skids since the floats were deployed and you can see the skids.


Bird is upside down under the skids and floats. That’s why they flip you over in the pool during HUET training.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26274 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:41 pm to
I don't think so. How are you coming to that conclusion?
Posted by all_over_it
Montegut
Member since Feb 2013
607 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:44 pm to
Debris pic
No chopper under skids
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20713 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:45 pm to
Normally that is the case and why HUET trains for it. However I think in this circumstance the body parted from thr skids, hence why they can't recover anyone.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40711 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:51 pm to
Looks like a rotor blade just under the water to me. If it is then it’s still attached to the fuselage.
Posted by all_over_it
Montegut
Member since Feb 2013
607 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:56 pm to
Then they would have found the personnel and recovered. But they found debris
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61622 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 5:07 pm to
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That’s why they flip you over in the pool during HUET training.


I couldn’t sleep the night before I did that training because I was so nervous about that. LOL
It really wasn’t that bad though
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6565 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 5:08 pm to
If the fuselage was still attached to the cross tubes you would definitely see it and the fact the cross tubes are so high in the water means there’s no weight holding the floats down.
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