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Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:34 pm to Vlad
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Arms bent at a 90, waist high is not UP.
Maybe I should watch it again, but I thought that it looked like his hands were well above his waist.
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It was a pretty good take down hampered by the vehicle.
No, that wasn't a good take down. A good take down would be one where the cop had control of the suspect. He did not.
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There is no advantage for the cop in doing that.
You cant be serious
Okay guy, tell me how trying to tackle a guy that is twice his size was a tactical advantage for him? Waiting.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:37 pm to musick
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No it wont. What are they implying? That a guy resisting 2 cops and barely going down using all his strength to resist would have: a) made it to his pocket anyway before being shot and b) not have moved nor the 2 cops moving his arm IF he did even make it to the gun after the struggled? This is a non-angle, that isnt taking off
What are you talking about? We're not dealing with rational people, we're dealing with a media that needs clicks and a population that doesn't understand that whether the gun was in his hand or not is irrelevant.
The officers never stated that he drew his gun on them. This was never at issue. But people don't care.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:37 pm to RB10
What I hate about these situations is that no matter what the facts are that come out, the black community has already condemned the police. There could be indisputable evidence but if it's contrary to their narrative, then it's "shut up whitey, you don't know shite". That's why the only voice being yelled over everyone else's is BLACK LIVES MATTER. It's absolutely 100% bat-shite crazy logic.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:38 pm to Jester
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Not really. Read the story about that. Kevin Knight crashed a car while passing by cops working the scene of a domestic battery he had just committed. He jumped out of the car firing at the officers.
Okay, maybe that's not that interesting
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Maybe I should watch it again, but I thought that it looked like his hands were well above his waist.
They were
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:39 pm to beauchristopher
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This still doesn't justify him being murdered.
I don't think you know what this word means.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:39 pm to The Pirate King
quote:These are not the only 2 possibilities. He may have reached for it but his hand had not yet entered his pocket. Therefore, no hand in pocket and no gun in hand when he was shot. This is another one of those cases that I like to wait a long time until everything comes out, then formulate an opinion or judgment. If the cop is guilty frick him. If the deceased was reaching for his gun, frick him.
"And if he would've reached for it, his hand would've still been in his pocket, or the gun would've been in his hand after they had killed him."
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:40 pm to logjamming
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What are you talking about? We're not dealing with rational people, we're dealing with a media that needs clicks and a population that doesn't understand that whether the gun was in his hand or not is irrelevant.
This.
It's the pivot the "unarmed man" crowd are making since that narrative does not fit this situation. "Armed Black man killed" headline doesn't generate the same interest as "Black Man with empty hands killed".
It's a pretty simple concept, actually.
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What I hate about these situations is that no matter what the facts are that come out, the black community has already condemned the police. There could be indisputable evidence but if it's contrary to their narrative, then it's "shut up whitey, you don't know shite". That's why the only voice being yelled over everyone else's is BLACK LIVES MATTER. It's absolutely 100% bat-shite crazy logic.
Agree 100%
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:43 pm to RB10
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Tell me again how the media isn't taking this angle....
His hands were empty? So what that's not what those articles focus on. Just because that is in the title doesnt mean anything. None of the 3 links you posted go into any detail on that fact. They are just posting the title because the second video showed he never got to the gun.
Were they supposed to wait til he reached the gun with his hand before shooting him?
Again it's not an angle that is "taking off". That has only come up because the second video showed he didn't actually have the gun in his hand. The gun was still there.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:45 pm to logjamming
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What are you talking about? We're not dealing with rational people, we're dealing with a media that needs clicks and a population that doesn't understand that whether the gun was in his hand or not is irrelevant.
The officers never stated that he drew his gun on them. This was never at issue. But people don't care.
Point taken
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:46 pm to musick
"it's not an angle the media is going to take.'
Shown actual proof that it is.
"It's still not an angle."
Whatever you say man.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:46 pm to Jizzy08
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What I hate about these situations is that no matter what the facts are that come out, the black community has already condemned the police. There could be indisputable evidence but if it's contrary to their narrative, then it's "shut up whitey, you don't know shite". That's why the only voice being yelled over everyone else's is BLACK LIVES MATTER. It's absolutely 100% bat-shite crazy logic.
I honestly think that if this happened exactly the same way, anywhere in NBR, and Sterling was seen clearly on video actually getting his hand on the gun, that the outcome is the same.
It's really a shame.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:49 pm to RB10
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"it's not an angle the media is going to take.'
Shown actual proof that it is.
"It's still not an angle."
Whatever you say man.
It's an angle because 3 press sites (one in canada and another from the UK) have "hands were EMPTY" in the title but reading the entire article go no further than that?
I guess that proves the angle is taking off
Please
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:50 pm to musick
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It's an angle because 3 press sites (one in canada and another from the UK) have "hands were EMPTY" in the title but reading the entire article go no further than that?
I guess that proves the angle
Please
Yes. That's sort of how the media works. Generate interest with sensationalist headlines.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:51 pm to zeto
Great video!
Key word... compliance
Key word... compliance
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:53 pm to RB10
The hands being empty was never new information.
That was pretty much known from the start.
The press picking up that angle and running with it implies that most all reporting has become fixated on that one issue.
It hasn't. In fact after reading all the article titles that are mentioning it, they all say nothing more about it.
That was pretty much known from the start.
The press picking up that angle and running with it implies that most all reporting has become fixated on that one issue.
It hasn't. In fact after reading all the article titles that are mentioning it, they all say nothing more about it.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:54 pm to musick
Not sure if posted but senior law enforcement officials confirmed that Sterling "showed" his gun to a homeless man who was begging for money.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:56 pm to musick
Holy shite you're dense. You think a media outlet that's posting that headline cares if it's old information? No, they don't. They see it as a way to generate MORE interest (clicks) in the same fricking topic. There's a reason it's called a new angle. It's a different way to view the SAME frickING THING.
Damn man. This really is not a hard concept.
Damn man. This really is not a hard concept.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:58 pm
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