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re: Americans Greatly Overestimate Economic Mobility
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:06 pm to rocket31
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:06 pm to rocket31
they're expecting welfare in their "retirement" years
these people assume they'll have a paid off house, car, and free medical care. all they'll need is that SS check to keep on going. it's stupid but it's what they believe
remove the socialist safety net and people will magically start saving again (b/c they have to) and spending less on frivolous shite
these people assume they'll have a paid off house, car, and free medical care. all they'll need is that SS check to keep on going. it's stupid but it's what they believe
remove the socialist safety net and people will magically start saving again (b/c they have to) and spending less on frivolous shite
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't think I agree with you here. The vast majority of people would be just as financially irresponsible w/o SS.
thank socialism (Social Security) for creating this incentive
Or at least come retirement time, they will be coming out with less $ than they would if they had SS.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
The elite need us to spend money on frivolous shite though. Ie consumerism
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:09 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Ya I don't think poor/dumb people are thinking that far ahead
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
remove the socialist safety net and people will magically start saving again (b/c they have to) and spending less on frivolous shite
I highly doubt it. They'll be just as stupid with their money in general. Some may, but most don't think beyond their next paycheck.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:13 pm to bbvdd
quote:
If you're smart and willing to actually work without complaining, it can be done.
yep
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:15 pm to ell_13
quote:It's about an extra 19 hours per week. If they're making less than $18,000, it's unlikely most are at 40 hours to begin with. And even if we incorrectly assume they're all at 40 hours, you may want to consider busting your arse for 60 hours per week so you can make more than $20k annually.
So 125 extra days of work. How little were they working before???
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Dat American Dream, doe.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:19 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:It is attainable for those who put in the work.
But it is definitely a widely held belief that it is a very attainable goal.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:36 pm to shel311
I sense snowflakes in this thread.
As my earlier post said, I'm living proof that it can be done.
It isn't easy so most will say "it isn't attainable". Want to know why? Because most are willing to do the work it takes.
ETA: just because it isn't easy or handed to you, doesn't mean that it can't be done.
How bad do you want it?
As my earlier post said, I'm living proof that it can be done.
It isn't easy so most will say "it isn't attainable". Want to know why? Because most are willing to do the work it takes.
ETA: just because it isn't easy or handed to you, doesn't mean that it can't be done.
How bad do you want it?
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:39 pm to rocket31
quote:1. Who is teaching us that?
Dude we are taught since day 1 that if you work hard, go to school,etc you'll be wealthy/successful regardless of where you started.
2. Who is working their arse off in school and after school and is still not successful? What % of people?
3. I'm guessing on #2, you're defining success solely on whether you hit that $98k number from the OP?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:40 pm to bbvdd
quote:no1 cares
I sense snowflakes in this thread.
As my earlier post said, I'm living proof that it can be done.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:41 pm to bbvdd
quote:
How bad do you want it?
Not badly enough to spend my whole life busting my arse for materialistic gainz. There are much more important things in life to me.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:48 pm to High C
quote:
Not badly enough to spend my whole life busting my arse for materialistic gainz
I've busted my arse so that I can be comfortable and now have the opportunity to spend time with my wife and kids more. And I have the chance to help others when and where I choose.
What's more important than that?
I'm mid 40s, btw.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:52 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
in 1996 i made zero dollars
in 2007, zero dollars
the article is right
life is torture
in 2007, zero dollars
the article is right
life is torture
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:52 pm to rocket31
What system are you referring too? Last I checked capitalism allows the market to dictate which products and innovations succeed and fail, not central planning
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:55 pm to rocket31
If you work hard and make good decisions you will be successful. It's hat while good decisions part that screws a lot of people
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:57 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
so how many tried and failed? Most po folk I know have no desire to work hard enough to get rich.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:57 pm to bbvdd
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I can be comfortable and now have the opportunity to spend time with my wife and kids more.
I've been able to do those things since I got married. All accomplished without what I would call "busting my arse". I grew up fairly poor, too.
I'm not criticizing you for hard work, I'm just saying that different people have different priorities. Congratulations on what you've accomplished.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 2:02 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Capitalism is second only to religion in marketing bull shite.
Communism is second only to mosquitos in killing humans.
I'll take marketing bullshite.
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