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Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:05 am to Darth_Vader
Hey you ignorant a-hole....
If you can’t grasp what mental illness is I don’t know what else to tell you.
If you can’t grasp what mental illness is I don’t know what else to tell you.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:05 am to Pettifogger
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I'd concede it's a selfish thing to do (in a vacuum) if you'd acknowledge that most people who commit suicide are not thinking rationally and the "selfishness" isn't coming from the same place as someone who does something destructive while thinking rationally.
You can't prove that. Mental illness is like pain, almost impossible to prove and furthermore to compare between 2 people.
I hate to say it but I agree with Darth, just because you suffer from something does not excuse your other actions completely. Furthermore, someone like Bourdain made literally 1000s of choices that your average person would not recommend. At some point those choices are his fault.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:06 am to baldona
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I hate to say it but I agree with Darth,
Then you get to join him on moron island.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:07 am to auzach91
Sad day. I really enjoyed Bourdain’s shows. Man had the best job on the planet. You just never know.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:08 am to auzach91
No Reservations: Cajun Country
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:10 am to auzach91
When I hear about these things (celebrity suicides) it doesn't really surprise me or anything. I don't like to hear about it happening to anyone, but I am never like "OMG! This is such a horrible day".. But I heard this first thing this morning and I actually felt sad.
I have always liked his shows. He wasn't someone who did gimmicky type things, he was natural. And he told a story.. Well. And I actually learned quite of a few things watching him. While I can't remember the episode.. Whether or not it was from his show on the travel channel or CNN, but there was one particular episode that caught my attention, in terms of how talented he was, when it came to telling a story. It might have been an episode when he visited Chernobyl. But I will miss his work.
I have always liked his shows. He wasn't someone who did gimmicky type things, he was natural. And he told a story.. Well. And I actually learned quite of a few things watching him. While I can't remember the episode.. Whether or not it was from his show on the travel channel or CNN, but there was one particular episode that caught my attention, in terms of how talented he was, when it came to telling a story. It might have been an episode when he visited Chernobyl. But I will miss his work.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:10 am to Captain Lafitte
God, that was a great episode. I will never forget that image of Bourdain busting a cap in Wilbur.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:11 am to baldona
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You can't prove that. Mental illness is like pain, almost impossible to prove and furthermore to compare between 2 people.
I hate to say it but I agree with Darth, just because you suffer from something does not excuse your other actions completely. Furthermore, someone like Bourdain made literally 1000s of choices that your average person would not recommend. At some point those choices are his fault.
I actually agree with this, but I still think I'm right.
Some people kill themselves out of momentary, overwhelming distress. Happened in my family. There were certainly other underlying issues, but it wasn't out of irrational depression. It was panic and shame.
Overwhelming anxiety directly and almost singularly attributed to work has led to suicides in Japan (and elsewhere, I'm sure).
People with mental illness can still be bad people, and they can still let selfish motives contribute to their decision making. But, nonetheless think those motives are probably amplified or overwhelmingly influenced by the underlying illness.
People love to make this a black or white issue, and it's probably not. We don't want to disparage the dead or the ill and say selfishness or weakness can be a factor - but they can, like any other human occurrence. But, that doesn't mean people who shout about selfishness or weakness in these situations are right, either.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:13 am to baldona
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I hate to say it but I agree with Darth, just because you suffer from something does not excuse your other actions completely. Furthermore, someone like Bourdain made literally 1000s of choices that your average person would not recommend. At some point those choices are his fault.
Depends on the severity. He may have just decided that life couldn't get any better and checked out. Could have been a relapse, could have been a large number of things.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:17 am to Pettifogger
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Pettifogger
Great post.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:19 am to Pettifogger
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People love to make this a black or white issue, and it's probably not. We don't want to disparage the dead or the ill and say selfishness or weakness can be a factor - but they can, like any other human occurrence. But, that doesn't mean people who shout about selfishness or weakness in these situations are right, either.
It's definitely not. Some don't understand that when in the throws of depression, it's sometimes not physically possible to think rationally.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:21 am to jbgleason
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He was on my Top Five Person I Want To Drink With list.
One of the few celebrities I had a genuine desire to meet and hang with.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:54 am to Displaced
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"Mmm, crispy grasshopper brains served in local motor oil and blood sauce. Delicious for the delicate pallet. My American counterparts couldn't possibly appreciate such a delicacy."
I think you're thinking of the Bizarre Foods guy.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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No offense. But you don’t know shite about me.
From what you have posted here we know that you expect people suffering form a mental illness to make rational well thought out life decisions, that alone shows you have no understanding of the problem.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:12 pm to TH03
Article from last year:
I'd never been in a gym in my life. I was 35 pounds overweight, a chain smoker, flabby, zero cardio. Taking stairs was not fun.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:21 pm to Darth_Vader
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But that doesnt make it right or even defensible for a parent to try and kill them self.
No one said it was right. And it’s not defending as much as empathizing so we can help people like her dad.
You've seen some stuff. It’s obviously made you very emotional about the subject. That doesn’t make you right. It just means you haven’t matured enough to realize there’s more to it than you see.
I’m not trying to insult you. About 11 years ago, I was just as immature.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:22 pm to Murray
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But that doesnt make it right or even defensible for a parent to try and kill them self.
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No one said it was right. And it’s not defending as much as empathizing so we can help people like her dad.
We don't even know why yet.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:25 pm to grape nutz
The title of the fricking article you just quoted
Are you mentally handicapped? It’s an article about how he started jiu-jitsu and got in extremely good shape.
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Anthony Bourdain Tells Us How He Got These Insane Abs
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From 35 pounds overweight to shredded at 61. If our favorite chef can do it, so can you
Are you mentally handicapped? It’s an article about how he started jiu-jitsu and got in extremely good shape.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We don't even know why yet.
I was referencing Nurses story about her dad and others like that. We don’t know Bourdains story yet, but the general sentiment still stands.
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