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Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:26 pm to el Gaucho
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One thing a lot of people don’t know is that William Randolph Hearst was a bigtime philanthropist and humanitarian. He funded soup kitchens and the like and volunteered in them himself. During the Spanish flu pandemic he even picked up dead bodies himself and put them in his own car to help during the public health crisis. This gesture was so well received by the public that even today, the cars driven by funeral homes used for dead bodies are called “hearsts”.
Did you hear about his granddaughter Patty?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:27 pm to OWLFAN86
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its herse and it's french from the Latin herplex
Is that when you suplex a girl with herpes?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:30 pm to adavis
Writing an essay for school?
--well, at least he didn't go to chatGPT first
--well, at least he didn't go to chatGPT first
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:38 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
The US needed a war to elevate itself to the status of a true world power. It had only been about 30 years since the Civil War and the country was still partially in recovery mode. War is good for business and for the economy as a whole. This was also the age of imperialism so the US was looking to expand. Spain was a good candidate for war because, while still a strong European country, its power had dwindled through the years. Plus, Spain held Cuba and Puerto Rico very close to the US, Guam in the Pacific, and the Philippines near China. So Yellow Journalism, or sensationalizing the facts, became a common practice to rile up the American population and get them to support war. Hearst was a big player in the yellow journalism game. The first step was to dehumanize the Spanish. Newspapers published articles depicting genocide in Cuba at the hands of the Spanish. The best example of yellow journalism is the explosion of the USS Maine. The American ship had been stationed in the Havana Harbor to “protect American interests.” It exploded and newspapers blamed it on the Spanish, giving us a “reason” to go to war. Years later they proved that it wasn’t the Spanish, but an explosion in the engine room. Nevertheless, we went to war and defeated Spain pretty easily.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:40 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
his daughter being kidnapped.
California, Texas
Panama Canal
---Wow the stupid is flying around today !
Hearst's kidnapped and brainwashed granddaughter, not daughter, was Patty. He was long dead by then.
California etc was the Mexican War, 50 years earlier
The Panama Canal was 16 years later and had nothing to do with Cuba.
PS: The Germans did not bomb Pearl Harbor.
So....We claimed we were helping free the Cubans who were revolting for their independence from Spain. But since a sign of global power in those days was having overseas possessions, we wanted to get into that game. .
After a "splendid little war" of 3 months, we gained Puerto Rico, claimed that Cuba was now independent (from Spain yes, but not really from us) and Assistant Sec of the Navy Teddy Roosevelt took it upon himself to order our attack on the Philippines, which we then added to our new global empire. Plus Guam.
Unrelated but at the same time, we annexed Hawaii. Now the US was a global power like the UK and France, to name a few.
California, Texas
Panama Canal
---Wow the stupid is flying around today !
Hearst's kidnapped and brainwashed granddaughter, not daughter, was Patty. He was long dead by then.
California etc was the Mexican War, 50 years earlier
The Panama Canal was 16 years later and had nothing to do with Cuba.
PS: The Germans did not bomb Pearl Harbor.
So....We claimed we were helping free the Cubans who were revolting for their independence from Spain. But since a sign of global power in those days was having overseas possessions, we wanted to get into that game. .
After a "splendid little war" of 3 months, we gained Puerto Rico, claimed that Cuba was now independent (from Spain yes, but not really from us) and Assistant Sec of the Navy Teddy Roosevelt took it upon himself to order our attack on the Philippines, which we then added to our new global empire. Plus Guam.
Unrelated but at the same time, we annexed Hawaii. Now the US was a global power like the UK and France, to name a few.
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:42 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
The birth of horrendous American foreign policy that we have been living with ever since.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:44 pm to adavis
USS Maine trivia.
---Next time you're in the Garden District area of BR, at the corner of Park Blvd and Magnolia, in front of those nasty old apartments that run down a hill...is a monument to BR Spanish American war vets. It's brick and looks like the front of a ship. The metal crosses on each side are from the USS Maine.
---Next time you're in the Garden District area of BR, at the corner of Park Blvd and Magnolia, in front of those nasty old apartments that run down a hill...is a monument to BR Spanish American war vets. It's brick and looks like the front of a ship. The metal crosses on each side are from the USS Maine.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:08 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
I just read the book "The War Lovers" by Evan Thomas. It's an excellent book that tells that story. Hearst and Roosevelt wanted the war badly...for different reasons. One for glory and the other to sell newspapers.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:21 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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To what extent was the Spanish-American War a William Randolph Hearst/Rockefeller creation and the American public totally fell for it?
All wars are motivated by wealth, power, and resources. Just never appears that way in the history books. Would say it was bigger than Granada but smaller than WW I.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:29 pm to Dire Wolf
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Change My Mind: we should have kept Cuba
It would have been a great SEC road trip to go play the University of Havana Rum Runners.
Bring back the Bacardi Bowl.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:48 pm to lepdagod
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You know what???... you right... what I'm referring to is the Mexican-American war.., for some reason I read Spanish as Mexican
If you are talking about the Mexican/American war, the primary cause was our annexation of Texas. Texas was a Mexican province. A lot of Americans emigrated there and later rebelled against Mexico and won their freedom. Texas was an independent republic for about 10 years before we annexed them into the US. They didn't like that and there was a border dispute. A couple of border clashes, and we are going at it. Taylor invaded from the north with some success, and Winfield Scott followed Cortez' route to Mexico City from Vera Cruz in a pretty masterful campaign. We ended up with the border being the Rio Grande, and getting the SW, including California, close to 1/3 of Mexico, though it was very lightly populated at the time.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:54 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Yellow journalism!
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:55 pm to el Gaucho
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One thing a lot of people don’t know is that William Randolph Hearst was a bigtime philanthropist and humanitarian. He funded soup kitchens and the like and volunteered in them himself. During the Spanish flu pandemic he even picked up dead bodies himself and put them in his own car to help during the public health crisis. This gesture was so well received by the public that even today, the cars driven by funeral homes used for dead bodies are called “hearsts”.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 2:57 pm to SpotCheckBilly
The real reason is because Mexico claimed the land south of the nueces river and Texas claimed it all the way down to the Rio grande. It was a border dispute. Texas won and then took California and all those other states.
My family’s ranch sits in this part of Texas that was won (south of the nueces river, Deep South Texas) so woo hoo!!
My family’s ranch sits in this part of Texas that was won (south of the nueces river, Deep South Texas) so woo hoo!!
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:06 pm to cypresstiger
Best answer.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:13 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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To what extent was the Spanish-American War a William Randolph Hearst/Rockefeller creation and the American public totally fell for it?
It was not a Hearst creation (and I would say Hearst leaning into Pulitzer's sensationalism style, fueled American sentiment to add fuel to the fire for the public's passion for war and patriotism and Cuban intervention. Many refer to it as the first Press-Driven war. All they needed was a sensational headline grabber...and the sinking of the Maine gave them that (even if there was zero evidence the Spanish had ANYTHING to do with it).
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:39 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:Well, the anti-Imperialists in congress placed the Teller Amendment onto the declaration of war that stated we will in fact not make Cuba a territory. So it was never really an option.
Change My Mind: we should have kept Cuba
Posted on 8/13/24 at 5:00 pm to justaniceguy
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The real reason is because Mexico claimed the land south of the nueces river and Texas claimed it all the way down to the Rio grande. It was a border dispute. Texas won and then took California and all those other states.
My family’s ranch sits in this part of Texas that was won (south of the nueces river, Deep South Texas) so woo hoo!!
That was part of the dispute, but Mexico repudiated the Treaty of Velasco that Santa Ana signed after San Jacinto, and still considered Texas to be a Mexican territory (albeit in rebellion). They then disputed our annexation of Texas. Polk tried to buy the disputed territory between the Rio Grande and Nueces, but Mexico refused to sell. Polk sent a small force to the Rio Grande, and a fight broke out.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 5:19 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Remember the Maine!…
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