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re: Ascension bans Kratom leaf

Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34764 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:25 pm to
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Kratom should be legal but I highly doubt anyone is thinking “damn, kratom is illegal now in ascension parish so I guess it’s heroin for me”



Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32055 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:45 pm to
fricking nanny state busybody count can't ever seem to be able to help themselves.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3784 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:47 pm to
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Legalize mushrooms. Kratom isn't good for you. It is really bad for some people


If alcohol is legal one cannot make the argument against kratom.

But I do agree with legalizing shrooms.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32055 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Kratom should be legal but I highly doubt anyone is thinking “damn, kratom is illegal now in ascension parish so I guess it’s heroin for me”


Less that it's illegal, more that it's "I can either drive 30 miles round trip to buy kratom, or I can buy XYZ from the guy down the street."
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3784 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Kratom isn’t any worse than drinking coffee or tea. Crazy they banned it.


This is simply NOT true.

Kratom can be highly habit forming with intense withdrawals same as hydrocodone. That said: while I don’t support it’s use, I still think it should be legal this is fricking America if people want to take it let them it’s better than fentanyl or heroin; you cannot overdose on it and you won’t rob people to pay for it.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:57 pm to
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We used to spend our days with family and community, being raised, and working 75% less than we do now.


Your entire post has a lot that is wrong, but this stood out to me. Until relatively recently, if you didn’t work the farms and care for the animals, you didn’t eat. The comfortable lifestyle you enjoy is mostly due to American prosperity, but don’t worry. You’re going to get your 75% less work as you know it if the democrats get their way.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68807 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:05 pm to
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It’s like the best cup of coffee you have ever had. I have called it sunshine in a cup. It makes me more social, talkative, energetic, focused, driven. I’ve used it to push trough 10 hours of manual labor after the flood. Used it to study and start a new business that without rose colored glasses I may have not, and has given me the financial freedom many dream of. When naive larger doses can be overwhelmingly euphoric where you close your eyes, but not sedating like eating 4 pieces of pizza at work.

I’m not trying to be an advocate for Kratom, just individual liberties. anything that good has it’s habitual tendencies. I am an advocate for healthy coping mechanism and developing resilience if possible.


Spoken like a true addict.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6355 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:28 pm to
Learn to write gooder.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2145 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:36 pm to
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tiger on the mountain
here are some links to say otherwise.
Except for the industrial rev. For the last 300 years we have worked more than ever.
LINK

For 95% of human history we have worked an average of 15 hrs a week

LINK
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:52 pm
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8469 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:47 pm to
Not commenting on its legality but I have met a few people who got addicted to kratom. As mentioned previously I've heard the withdrawals are pretty bad actually.
Posted by LawTiger18
Member since Aug 2022
657 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:56 pm to
What a “free” society we live in. frickin joke
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:58 pm
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3307 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:18 pm to
I have really severe nighttime nerve pain, would go days with little sleep, countless visits to specialists. I would actually spend hours rolling on a hard floor to get relief and it got to where I feared bedtime. Then I found kratom and it changed my life, I can still remember the first time I took it, 20 minutes later I was as comfortable as I had been in years, been using it ever since. It was made a felony to possess in Alabama so I moved.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:36 pm to
Never heard of this shite
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3307 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:38 pm to
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ratom isn’t any worse than drinking coffee or tea. Crazy they banned it. Thanks big pharma who’s lost tons of money from former opioid users who recovered by using it. Kratom is great and anyone that says they’re addicted anymore than a coffee addict is a pussy wanting attention. Been taking it for a decade and when I stop for a bit it’s the exact same as when I used to quit drinking coffee. I’m more tired than usual for about a week. Tell you one thing I don’t get anxious or jittery like I did with coffee and I have an orthopedic friend who recommends kratom to patients because he’s so against opioids ReplyOptionsTop


This guy nailed it, I take it at night for years now. There have been times I've run out for a couple of days, I've never had 1 withdrawal symptom and I'm an addictive person,smoked for 20 years before I could give it up, so I know withdrawal.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83693 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Less that it's illegal, more that it's "I can either drive 30 miles round trip to buy kratom, or I can buy XYZ from the guy down the street."


If it’s easier to buy heroin from the guy down the street than to drive to the next parish over, then you live in a horrible neighborhood. If it’s that easy for you to get heroin then you’re probably already a user bc most people don’t have heroin dealers at their beck and call.

Kratom absolutely should be legal but that’s just a goofy argument.
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17134 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:47 pm to
So it gets ya high? Nice!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32055 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:49 pm to
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If it’s easier to buy heroin from the guy down the street than to drive to the next parish over, then you live in a horrible neighborhood. If it’s that easy for you to get heroin then you’re probably already a user bc most people don’t have heroin dealers at their beck and call.


I spent quite a few years dealing with drug courts. Kratom tended to be a fallback substance for those trying to kick other, more serious addictions. So yes, those people already have dealers on speed-dial.

ETA: On a related note, the treatment team fricking hated Kratom, because they thought it was a crutch that stopped people from fully recovering, and regulating it was a giant pain in the arse
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10711 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:57 pm to
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Never heard of this shite
Supposedly an adderall/lortab knockoff from gas stations.
Posted by LawTiger18
Member since Aug 2022
657 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:00 pm to
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If it’s easier to buy heroin from the guy down the street than to drive to the next parish over, then you live in a horrible neighborhood. If it’s that easy for you to get heroin then you’re probably already a user bc most people don’t have heroin dealers at their beck and call. Kratom absolutely should be legal but that’s just a goofy argument.

They will probably just go get on suboxone or methadone which are far worse substances to be taking. Banning kratom is not something you do for the good of society.
Posted by Master Guilbeau
Member since Jan 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:04 pm to
Where can I get some good Kratom in br?
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