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Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:14 pm to dawgfan24348
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Oh yes some crazy dude who got fired by PBS for saying something asinine proves your fear is legit
Oh, you'd like more examples? One moment please. How many examples of people having this exact mindsight, who are public officials, will it take for you to consider it more than just a "right wing conspiracy"?
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:14 pm to HeadSlash
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Just feel good legislation that caused buyers to spend more $$ on guns and magazines.
I used to get my panties all in a wad over this bs banter... now, I am 100% convinced that this is literally the purpose. And people thought the NRA was "fighting" for your freedoms
good ol lobbyist Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:14 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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My question is what can be done to lessen the number of these public mass shootings? Do we just shrug our shoulders and say it is what it is? Go back to the wild west where we should grow accustomed to some vigilante justice?
You might be on to something with going back to the Wild West days. I don't remember studying about a bunch of mass shootings back then.
Speaking of that. What was the first school shooting? Kent State? I;m sure there were shootings earlier that just weren't very well known
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:15 pm to Centinel
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Oh, you'd like more examples?
Dude you're just fricking cherry picking random crazies that have nothing to do with the government or red flag laws
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:15 pm to fallguy_1978
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Mass shootings are a fart in the wind compared to the hood violence is this country. Why shouldn't we focus on that first?
Do you know where the gangs in Chicago get most of their guns? Indiana. Do you know what gun laws exist in Indiana? Very, very few. Straw runners can buy in bulk in IN, run them right across into Chicago, and sell on the streets. The only defense Chicago has to guns in the city is not allowing them to be purchased in the city. They can't do a damn thing about them coming from other places other than coming across them during traffic stops or catching people out in public with them.
Federal gun control DOES focus on intercity violence.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Straw runners can buy in bulk in IN, run them right across into Chicago, and sell on the streets.
Except that's not happening. Most firearms used in gang violence are stolen.
Try again.
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Federal gun control DOES focus on intercity violence.
No, it focuses on infringing on the legal ownership of firearms by non-violent members of society...because that's easy.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:17 pm to Centinel
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Address why the mass shootings happen
They happen because of the people holding the knives, the guns, the bombs.
It's almost like an effective mitigation technique would be to keep those people who show signs of violence away from weapons, eh?
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:19 pm to Centinel
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Oh, you'd like more examples? One moment please. How many examples of people having this exact mindsight, who are public officials, will it take for you to consider it more than just a "right wing conspiracy"?
Here's on from a former Clinton administration cabinet member who is still considered influential in Democratic politics.
The fact that people choose to stick their heads in the sand despite this kind of talk is staggering.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:19 pm to dawgfan24348
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Dude you're just fricking cherry picking random crazies that have nothing to do with the government or red flag laws
And when those "crazies" that don't exist in your mind report your arse to the police when they find out you're a Trump supporter, claiming harassment or threat, and your guns or confiscated, without proof, under the red flag laws?
Because red flag laws don't require proof. Just allegation. Sure, if it's fake you'll get your guns back. One day. Maybe.
I'd say you're naive, but I know you're not. You just don't give a frick.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:19 pm to Centinel
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Address why the mass shootings happen
Extremely loaded question but the media giving the shooter wall to wall coverage and our pitiful treatment of mental health in this country are certainly factors
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:20 pm to mmmmmbeeer
So disarm law abiding citizens until someone (who knows who since the left doesn't really care about this as their agenda) figures out how to stop them? You think passing a law will prevent people from getting their hands on guns???? how fricking dumb can you be? Do you know what a criminal is? It's a person who breaks the law. Heroin is illegal, but guess what, it's still out there and I could probably find some in an hour and I live in a rural small town. Why do you fricking idiots think making guns and magazines illegal will suddenly make them completely unable to be had by people with motivations??
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:20 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Federal gun control DOES focus on intercity violence.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:21 pm to texasmason
How about instead of more pointless gun ban attempts, try to address the incel culture and poor mental health that causes most mass shootings. After last summer I will always support unrestricted access to all kinds of firearms.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:21 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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It's almost like an effective mitigation technique would be to keep those people who show signs of violence away from weapons, eh?
You're not going to keep them away from knives and bombs. You want to take the easy road out and address a tool, not the reason why the tool was used. And here's the thing about tools...they are easily replaceable.
See: The Tsarnovs, Paris Truck massacre, etc.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:22 pm to V Bainbridge
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Unconstitutional. Full stop. End of story.
Actually what he is planning to do is constitutional.
His executive order will on apply to fire arms imported from outside the United States.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:22 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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They happen because of the people holding the knives, the guns, the bombs.
Wait, are you now saying we need to outlaw knives?
Bombs are already illegal. Your logic is flawed, actually it's nonexistent.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:22 pm to dawgfan24348
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Extremely loaded question but the media giving the shooter wall to wall coverage and our pitiful treatment of mental health in this country are certainly factors
Then how about we address that instead of the tool used?
Again, the answer is because "that's hard. Banning guns is easy and it shows I. Care. Deeply."
Posted on 3/23/21 at 4:23 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Do you know where the gangs in Chicago get most of their guns? Indiana. Do you know what gun laws exist in Indiana? Very, very few. Straw runners can buy in bulk in IN, run them right across into Chicago, and sell on the streets. The only defense Chicago has to guns in the city is not allowing them to be purchased in the city. They can't do a damn thing about them coming from other places other than coming across them during traffic stops or catching people out in public with them.
Federal gun control DOES focus on intercity violence.
Funny how the surrounding areas don't have Chicago levels of violence despite having these "lax" gun laws. Maybe the problem is, I don't know, a complete cultural breakdown of a certain segment of a city.
The idea that we need to strip Indiana citizens of their gun rights because people in Chicago act like savages is, again, draconian. But that seems to be your jam.
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