- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: California Pizza Huts lay off all delivery drivers ahead of minimum wage increase
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:57 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:57 am to Jcorye1
quote:
I'm coming around to the idea that some companies are taking advantage of laws and inflation to make changes they were already eyeing.
I think you hit the nail on the head with this. Looking at the quote from the article in the OP-
quote:
The layoffs, which will take place through the end of February, come as California's minimum wage is about to go up by $4. Fast-food workers in the state are set to get a pay bump of close to 30% in April as the minimum wages rises from $16 to $20 an hour. PacPizza, LLC, operating as Pizza Hut, said in a Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act notice that the company made a business decision to eliminate first-party delivery services and, as a result, the elimination of all delivery driver positions, according to Business Insider. The notice was filed with the state's Employment Development Department. The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act requires employers to give notice of mass layoffs or plant closures. Southern California Pizza Co., a second Pizza Hut franchise, is also eliminating its in-house delivery services and laying off 841 drivers, according to a WARN Act notice from Dec 1. The layoffs impact drivers at Pizza Hut locations in Sacramento, Palm Springs, Los Angeles and other cities throughout the state.
This quote, as written, only says that the timing of the layoffs in fact coincides with the increase in the minimum wage. It also reports the fact of the company’s claim via statement this was a business decision to eliminate first person delivery services. There is an implication by the author that it’s because of minimum wage increasing, but that’s speculation.
I’m sure no doubt that the cost of maintaining “first person deliver services” is a factor…but it likely was at $16 /hr and raising it to $20 /hr was the final nail in the coffin. It’s also the fact that Door Dash, Uber eats or whoever can pay for $20 /hr and those folks can stay busy delivering to a multitude of restaurants …and isn’t a lot of their work force “on call” meaning their not paid waiting around for deliveries,
Only when they actually have one?
0
Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:05 am to RLDSC FAN
Doordash to the rescue
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Sounds like you think people arent capable of rising above menial jobs.
If people cant work for less than $20/hour, public assistance is too high.
Public assistance is unquestionably too high....there should be as little of it needed as possible but we somehow concluded that human beings have a market price yet we continue to support the notion that labor has a market price ONLY and there is no variable for that labor's production costs. We subsidize the production costs of low wage employers. This is a basic tenet of conservative economics...everyone should be responsible for their own costs, employees and employers alike.
It is not a matter of rising above menial jobs, it is a matter of production costs. Whether an individual is capable of raising above a menial job or not is hot germane to the fact that the individual exists and has a minimum cost of living that can only be met a couple of ways...through labor, through public assistance, through crime or a combination of those. Almost all public assistance has a work requirement....and I think most sane people would agree the best way for individuals to feed, house and maintain themselves is through labor.
The truly incredible aspect of ALL of this is that those same low wage employers also pay exorbitant taxes in order for their employees to be viable employees. Very few people do not think their tax burden is too high...and at least some of those taxes are used to make sure low wage employees are meeting their basic nut through subsidies for housing, transportation, health care and a host of things. Why on earth anyone is opposed to the idea that we would all be better served if those employees were feeding, housing and maintaining themselves through labor instead of being on the dole is anyone's guess...it misses the most basic economic principle there is and that is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. There is no free lunch for employees, there is no free lunch for employers and there is no free lunch for the rest of us...yes, a Big Mac may be cheaper at the point of sell but what is the cost of the subsidies that you have no real choice but to help pay?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:49 am to bcoop199
quote:
Here's #1...Quit fricking encouraging/assisting millions of ILLEGALS to enter the country that drives down wages. There's so many ways they're screwing up the economy yet Dems and even way too many Repubs are all for it.
Amen brother, preach. Immigration is a lynch pin to the economic success of the United States but it has ALWAYS lowered wages. Back in the days when folks were free to pile up 20 deep in a one room apartment and live in abject squalor in an inner city ghetto of similarly situated immigrants until such time as they managed to better their lot in life this was not as big a deal. Today, giving zoning ordinances and the lobbying that goes on locally to keep real estate prices up this is no longer acceptable...the "not in my backyard" idea.
Back in the day even in cities there were small ghettos around a plant that allowed workers to commute under their own power. Zoning no longer allows for that...even if there is a manufacturing plant still in operation it is in an industrial park and a long damned walk from the nearest public transportation, let alone from the nearest affordable hovel where you and 10 others can share costs.
Immigration certainly drives down wages. There is no question about that certainty. The fact that it is FAR harder to immigrate to the United States in 2023 than it has ever been in the history of this nation, contrary to the idea that the borders are wide open, does not change the fact that any significant immigration drives down wages while simultaneously driving up the costs associated with having more people and having more people whose wages are most likely lower than those who have been in the country a while.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:52 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:
t it is FAR harder to immigrate to the United States in 2023 than it has ever been in the history of this nation
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:53 am to FredBear
quote:
If someone chooses to buck on a 16 dollar an hour job and move to committing crimes that's not on us brother
It certainly is not...but it does impact the victim of said crime and policing the criminals and jailing them costs all of us.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:16 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:
How can liberals constantly be so willing to demonstrate they don't have the faintest notion about economics?
Left, right and center most people do not understand the most basic tenet of economic theory and that is the unrefuted fact that there is no free lunch. An employer can pay less than the full cost of their employees production costs but that does not mean that the cost of their employees production decreases...it means the difference has to be made up somewhere else.
If you need a tractor to facilitate your business' production costs you will have to factor in the costs of fuel, maintenance and transportation when it is being used and storage of that tractor when it is not in use. If you were a competent business owner and one who accepted their financial obligations you would pay all of those costs and charge customers accordingly so your revenue would exceed your expenses and you have the money you needed to meet your personal expenses. This is the expectation of nearly everyone in the United States for a business that needs a tractor to facilitate it's production...no one would claim those should be subsidized by customers and non-customers alike...yet for some reason we are perfectly content to do so for a business that relies on people to facilitate their production to the point that some among us get bent out of shape if that labor asks for higher wages.
This has been a basic foundation of free enterprise in the United States. Even when some people owned other people the owner was fully expected to pay for the owned people's production costs entirely with no assistance from anyone. It was an incredible burden and one that proved economically flawed because it was far cheaper to pay the labor than to own the labor. Entire industries did this through the 1970s.....mill and mine towns were a reality in this country just a short while ago. Most of the SE that is in an urban setting is in an urban setting due to a mill town where the owners and investors understood that labor production was a cost to be managed by the employer and was to be recouped through the revenue of the business, not from taxpayers.
How this idea as slipped from the consciousness of Americans is beyond imagination. Why so many otherwise smart people with conservative ideas finds it acceptable for businesses to veer away from that concept is a mystery...how they have been duped into accepting their role in facilitating the profitability of any business regardless of their status as a customer of said business or not is strange indeed.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 6:18 am to Asharad
quote:
quote:
t it is FAR harder to immigrate to the United States in 2023 than it has ever been in the history of this nation
So I guess you're beating your head against a wall because you wrongly believe otherwise OR is it because it angers you that immigrating to the United States is far harder today than it has been at anytime in the history of this nation?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:49 am to Jcorye1
Most Canes and Chick Fil A’s have lines pouring into the street when I pass by. The only time I ever consider eating fast food is on the way back from an LSU game when its late at night and we’ve been drinking most of the day.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:18 am to Scuttle But
quote:
The CEO is worth $19 million to Pizza Hut.
Really?
Why? Honest question…
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:41 am to beerJeep
quote:
Retard alert
Could it be that he's just a really unfunny el gaucho?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:18 pm to rpg37
quote:
Rouse's brand frozen pizza once this month and that will become my go-to
Love Rouse's but lived too long in Chicago to eat Rouse frozen pies. Thin crust bar pizza is incredible. It's hard to find in the south, although Theo's Magazine Street was pretty legit.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:34 pm to Cosmo
I’m the idiot for seeing the greed? Your naive.
Page 10 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News